TV licence thread

[mort 10]

If you do not start being civil then I will be more than happy to suspend accounts. 

[Car Boot 10]

Scrapping universal free TV licences for over-75s will have a disproportionate impact on women, the disabled and dementia sufferers, according to the BBC’s own research.

 

The broadcaster’s own equality impact assessment has found that any change to the benefit for all over-75s would harm vulnerable groups.

“Individuals over 75 are more likely to be female and/or disabled,” it states. “Any decision other than copying the existing concession will [therefore] adversely affect more women than men and more disabled people or those with cognitive illnesses such as dementia.”

It adds that of those forced to give up their TV, older women would be disproportionately affected because they are more likely to be single and reliant on it for companionship. Disabled people and those with dementia who similarly depend on their TVs would suffer. The Alzheimer’s Society warned that removing the subsidy could increase social isolation.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/licence-fee-pain-will-fall-on-vulnerable-admits-bbc-b3hgpbts3

 

Wonderful BBC.

 

It's attacks on women, the poor and the vulnerable never cease.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Car Boot

[Magilla 510]

27 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

Scrapping universal free TV licences for over-75s will have a disproportionate impact on women, the disabled and dementia sufferers, according to the BBC’s own research.

Add in the poor and just about everyone else... and that sounds a lot like Brexit... "will of the people" and all that... you can't have it both ways.

 

Welcome to Brexit Britain!

Edited June 13, 2019 by Magilla

[Car Boot 10]

19 minutes ago, Magilla said:

Add in the poor and just about everyone else... and that sounds a lot like Brexit... "will of the people" and all that... you can't have it both ways.

 

Welcome to Brexit Britain!

So you believe that it's perfectly acceptable for the BBC to target the elderly, women, the disabled and people with cognitive impairment?

[Robin-H 11]

4 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

So you believe that it's perfectly acceptable for the BBC to target the elderly, women, the disabled and people with cognitive impairment?

Elderly people who can't afford it will still get it for free as they be on pension credit.  I really don't see the problem. 

[Car Boot 10]

22 minutes ago, Robin-H said:

Elderly people who can't afford it will still get it for free as they be on pension credit.  I really don't see the problem. 

You don't see any problem? Here's why you are WRONG.

 

1. According to official Government figures 1.3million families who are entitled to Pension Credit do not claim.

 

2. Poorer households will be the hardest hit by this change. Many elderly pensioners will be pushed into poverty.

 

3. Many elderly viewers will be unable or unwilling to provide BBC enforcers with the proof that they are in receipt of Pension Credit.

 

4. It is likely to result in criminal proceedings against elderly viewers who are unable to pay for a BBC TV Licence.

Edited June 13, 2019 by Car Boot

[Magilla 510]

5 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

So you believe that it's perfectly acceptable for the BBC to target the elderly, women, the disabled and people with cognitive impairment?

The BBC aren't targetting anyone, the choice was made by the public, not the BBC...  again, the will of the people and all that!

 

All the groups you highlight would still get it unless they're rich anyway

 

Another theory up in smoke... ho humm

[Car Boot 10]

1 minute ago, Magilla said:

The BBC aren't targetting anyone, the choice was made by the public, not the BBC...  again, the will of the people and all that!

 

All the groups you highlight would still get it unless they're rich anyway

 

Another theory up in smoke... ho humm

The final decision rested with the BBC. 

 

The BBC chose to attack the elderly and most vulnerable in society in this way. A decision that reveals just how remote and completely out of touch this ivory towers organisation has become. This issue will destroy thelicence fee, and completely change the BBC.

[Magilla 510]

3 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

You don't see any problem? Here's why you are WRONG.

 

1. According to official Government figures 1.3million families who are entitled to Pension Credit do not claim.

 

2. Poorer households will be the hardest hit by this change. Many elderly pensioners will be pushed into poverty.

 

3. Many elderly viewers will be unable or unwilling to provide BBC enforcers with the proof that they are in receipt of Pension Credit.

 

4. It is likely to result in criminal proceedings against elderly viewers who are unable to pay for a BBC TV Licence.

I hear Boris is giving that money for the NHS to his rich mates too!

 

Gasp!

 

Welcome to Brexit "sod everyone else and look after number one" Britain!

 

 

[Car Boot 10]

6 minutes ago, Magilla said:

The BBC aren't targetting anyone, the choice was made by the public, not the BBC...  again, the will of the people and all that!

 

All the groups you highlight would still get it unless they're rich anyway

 

Another theory up in smoke... ho humm

According to the BBC's own equality impact assessment into ending free TV licences for the over 75s the vulnerable will be harmed by this action.

 

Do you think the BBC have got it wrong, and that vulnerable groups will actually benefit?

[Magilla 510]

21 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

The final decision rested with the BBC. 

...and they went with a compromise of what the majority of respondents suggested.

 

Again, will of the people...

 

What was it again, you can't complain if you don't take part... shame you couldn't be bothered!

 

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The BBC chose to attack the elderly and most vulnerable in society in this way.

Nonsense.

 

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A decision that reveals just how remote and completely out of touch this ivory towers organisation has become.

The BBC did what the people said they should.... so again, nonsense.

 

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This issue will destroy thelicence fee, and completely change the BBC.

That'll only leave the groups you highlight worse off in terms of quality TV, news and local affairs, they'll just end up paying more for less and be even more disadvantaged.

 

14 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

According to the BBC's own equality impact assessment into ending free TV licences for the over 75s the vulnerable will be harmed by this action.

Exactly like Brexit and the impact that will have on the poor, the people decided they wanted to do it anyway!

 

I'm happy if they want to change their mind 

 

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Do you think the BBC have got it wrong, and that vulnerable groups will actually benefit?

I'm sure some will, but again, it's the will of the people... not the BBC.

 

I don't agree with it, but the fault lies with the government, not the BBC.

 

Again, welcome to Brexit "sod everyone else and look after number one" Britain!

 

Just wait until it brings a two tier health service, then you'll really have something to moan about!

Edited June 13, 2019 by Magilla

[Robin-H 11]

3 minutes ago, Car Boot said:

You don't see any problem? Here's why you are WRONG.

 

1. According to official Government figures 1.3million families who are entitled to Pension Credit do not claim.

 

2. Poorer households will be the hardest hit by this change. Many elderly pensioners will be pushed into poverty.

 

3. Many elderly viewers will be unable or unwilling to provide BBC enforcers with the proof that they are in receipt of Pension Credit.

 

4. It is likely to result in criminal proceedings against elderly viewers who are unable to pay for a BBC TV Licence.

1) I don't see why this is relevant. If a person is entitled to Pension Credit but doesn't claim it, then they should claim it and get the free licence (and more money as well). There is a lot of help and assistance available from charities to help people apply for Pension Credit. If anything, this change and the publicity around it will likely cause the number of people claiming pension credit to go up. 

 

2) The poorest households receive, or are able to receive, pension credit. They will continue to get the licence for free. 

 

3) The BBC says it will work with older people's groups and support organisations to make the claiming process as easy as possible. Recognising that the decision will affect customers who may need extra support, from next year, TV Licensing will be providing face to face assistance for older people through an outreach programme delivered by specially trained customer care field staff. The size of the TV Licensing customer support call centre will also be increased. TV Licensing will also be launching a free telephone information line this month where older customers and their relatives can access recorded information on the new policy and advice to customers. 

 

4) Elderly people genuinely unable to afford the cost of a licence should be receiving pension credit. If they aren't currently receiving it, then they should claim it.