Dude111 Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Yes, Microsoft admitted it not only logs its users time on Windows 10 but also their time using Microsoft Edge… and gaming… and streaming games… and counting your search queries… and every single time a user opens a photo. Understandably perturbed by this BetaNews took Microsoft to task on these revelations and asked if it would like to “explain how it came about the information, and why it is being collected in the first place”. Microsoft’s official response: “Thank you for your patience as I looked into this for you. Unfortunately my colleagues cannot provide a comment regarding your request. All we have to share is this Windows blog post.” To which BetaNews makes a very fair conclusion: “Microsoft’s spying is intrusive enough to reveal how long you have been using Windows 10, but the company is not willing to be open about the collection of this data.” Consequently the next obvious point to ponder is: If Microsoft is happy to disclose this data without saying how it was attained, what else does it access and track without user knowledge? Given Microsoft already admits much of its automatic spying cannot to turned off, just how many more metrics and how much user data is it gathering from every Windows 10 device? [more] Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2016/01/06/windows-10-spying-secrets-revealed (Be careful going here,I have read FORBES is sending crap to people who visit it but thats where the article is,I tried to find it elsewhere!!!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghozer Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Turn off reporting, turn off onedrive, and problem solved... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Turn off reporting, turn off onedrive, and problem solved... I've fiddled with security, DNS and reporting settings but is there a definitive list of things to tweak and/or turn off anywhere? Plus, as I understand it, Edge does not allow you to limit your cache size but if you set it in IE it gets picked up by Edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 Turn off reporting, turn off onedrive, and problem solved... IT's not possible to turn off reporting entirely. If you turn off everything and then sniff the network traffic you will see it still sends stuff out to the Microsoft mothership. Add to that all the other horribly broken rubbish in there and it's a no brainer- stay on Win 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghozer Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 IT's not possible to turn off reporting entirely. If you turn off everything and then sniff the network traffic you will see it still sends stuff out to the Microsoft mothership. Add to that all the other horribly broken rubbish in there and it's a no brainer- stay on Win 7. Nah, I turned off auto updates, Turned off all error reporting etc, and run a network monitor, and there's only ever traffic that I'm using / normal... And as for Edge not having a cache limit, but setting in IE does it, it's because IE's "Internet Options" are not for IE, they are your computers (Windows) settings, and (unless a browser or app has its own setting(s)) anything that accesses the internet will use these settings first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 And for those people who decided they don't want to upgrade & set registry entries or ran software to prevent the nagware being loaded, Microsoft apparently don't believe you don't want Windows 10 & run processes that reset the registry keys, at least on some machines http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/12/microsofts_get_windows_10_nagware_is_showing_signs_of_sentience/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scimsfan Posted January 13, 2016 Share Posted January 13, 2016 I've fiddled with security, DNS and reporting settings but is there a definitive list of things to tweak and/or turn off anywhere? https://fix10.isleaked.com/ Also note the link for Windows 7 & 8.1 near the top of the page. https://fix10.isleaked.com/oldwindows.html Not sure if it's true but read on another forum that Windows 10 logs and reports pretty much everything to Microsoft. What Microsoft has admitted to tracking is the tip of the iceberg... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexAtkin Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Anyone would think Microsoft were uploading your entire HDD contents to "the cloud" with how people are panicking. I fail to see why people are so concerned that Microsoft are doing exactly what iOS and Android has been doing for years. Yes they can see if you opened a photo, no they can't SEE the photo, that would be illegal and very obvious on your internet activity logs. The same goes for everything else. Like they said, its telemetry data. They can see what apps you use the most, what features you use the most, when things break. This allows them to better optimise those things in the future. They know what functionality to focus on, what people rarely use so is less important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dude111 Posted January 14, 2016 Author Share Posted January 14, 2016 Anyone would think Microsoft were uploading your entire HDD contents to "the cloud" with how people are panicking. I fail to see why people are so concerned that Microsoft are doing exactly what iOS and Android has been doing for years. I wonder if they are unaware of those things also doing it... Win10 is right in your face about this going on.. (Nothing really hidden) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Anyone would think Microsoft were uploading your entire HDD contents to "the cloud" with how people are panicking. I fail to see why people are so concerned that Microsoft are doing exactly what iOS and Android has been doing for years. Yes they can see if you opened a photo, no they can't SEE the photo, that would be illegal and very obvious on your internet activity logs. The same goes for everything else. Like they said, its telemetry data. They can see what apps you use the most, what features you use the most, when things break. This allows them to better optimise those things in the future. They know what functionality to focus on, what people rarely use so is less important. Is it? Microsoft are not saying precisely what it is, nor are they letting people examining what is being sent. And theres no real warning - if you pick the by default then it sends everything. And as said before - you cannot turn it all off... I don't use iOS and Android for confidential data for precisely those reasons. And when you get utterly stupid systems like MS sending your wifi passwords to the cloud so they can hand it out to others, it's perfectly clear that they don't in fact give a hoot about your data integrity. Plain and simple. MS are lying about what they are doing, and when caught they refuse to tell you what it is. They are simply not trustworthy. Ergo, I don't trust them, or their OS any more. The trouble with the fanbois is they cannot see this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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