alchresearch   206 #337 Posted September 11, 2018 The article says:  It is understood that she was hit by the Qashqai as she was standing next to the vehicle when the Mercedes struck it.  Why on earth was she standing next to the vehicle?  When I've passed broken down cars on the hard shoulder, I've lost count of the times I've seen the passengers (plural) all stood around the car and not over the barrier and up or down the banking.  The article also says:  A 30-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of causing death by dangerous driving and remains in police custody this morning.  So, someone not paying attention or ignoring the red crosses? You can't blame the road for stupid people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   268 #338 Posted September 11, 2018 I agree, it's very sad she's died but standing next to your broken down vehicle on the motorway isn't very smart.  It'd been there 16 minutes apparently, plenty of time to get out of the way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   206 #339 Posted September 11, 2018 I've passed people sat in their cars broken down on the hard shoulder just because its raining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #340 Posted September 11, 2018 I agree, it's very sad she's died but standing next to your broken down vehicle on the motorway isn't very smart. It'd been there 16 minutes apparently, plenty of time to get out of the way.  I saw this detail earlier today, yesterday I'd assumed she had literally only just got out of the car and had no time to get out of the carriageway, but in reality she stayed in a dangerous place instead of moving to a safe one... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Justin Smith   10 #341 Posted March 25, 2019 On ‎11‎/‎09‎/‎2018 at 10:25, geared said: I agree, it's very sad she's died but standing next to your broken down vehicle on the motorway isn't very smart.  It'd been there 16 minutes apparently, plenty of time to get out of the way. And plenty of time to close the lane...… I`ve seen loads of beached cars on "smart" motorways, including one just today, with the lane still open. Or was the lane closed ? If it was that`s even worse, that proves that the whole concept of a motorway with (what was) the hard shoulder open as a normal ruinning lane as default, is a bad idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rudds1   102 #342 Posted October 25, 2019 (edited) Looks like the smart motorway building is going to be reviewed in next few weeks due to people getting hurt / killed on them .should these motorways continue to be built ? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50169527 Edited October 25, 2019 by rudds1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest   #343 Posted October 25, 2019 Links are always useful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jim Hardie   495 #344 Posted October 25, 2019 About time. Why does it take unnecessary deaths before a stupid idea some whiz kid came up with is seen for what it is? Hard shoulders are there for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Top Cats Hat   10 #345 Posted October 25, 2019 There’s nothing wrong with smart motorways, it is the intermittent use of the hard shoulder as a live lane at busy times that is the problem.  The hard shoulder is there for a reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
The Joker   10 #346 Posted October 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jim Hardie said: About time. Why does it take unnecessary deaths before a stupid idea some whiz kid came up with is seen for what it is? Hard shoulders are there for a reason. Because the deaths of poor Northerners are an acceptable price to pay when a London-centric government expands a motorway on the cheap?  I know us Sheffielders like saving money, but deaths are too high a price to pay, even for a tight-arse skinflint like me  These deaths were expected, inevitable, and avoidable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #347 Posted October 25, 2019 I drove to Folkestone last weekend.  In the huge roadworks near Milton Keynes, there were two broken down lorries in sections without hard shoulder. The delays caused were ridiculous. The two breakdowns added roughly 40 minutes to my journey.  Removing the hard shoulder is clearly dangerous. It also does little to improve journey times as every small incident has a disproportionate effect upon traffic flow.   Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rudds1   102 #348 Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Pettytom said: I drove to Folkestone last weekend.  In the huge roadworks near Milton Keynes, there were two broken down lorries in sections without hard shoulder. The delays caused were ridiculous. The two breakdowns added roughly 40 minutes to my journey.  Removing the hard shoulder is clearly dangerous. It also does little to improve journey times as every small incident has a disproportionate effect upon traffic flow.   Those roadworks take the mickey big style. 22 miles of roadworks and another 2 1/2 years still to go yet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...