Homeopath recommendations please

[TimmyR 10]

There is a lot about homeopathic medicine that people don't understand

 

No there isn't. It has been proven numerous times to have no effect greater than placebo. Your case is just coincidence.

[Annie Bynnol 612]

No there isn't. It has been proven numerous times to have no effect greater than placebo. Your case is just coincidence.

 

Yes there is. There is a lot about homeopathic medicine that people don't understand for example :

 

Why is so much NHS money being spent on Homeopathic drugs which do not improve health greater than placebo effect?

 

Why are more private practices being set up as fewer patients are referred through the NHS?

 

Why do these shops set themselves up next door to large NHS hospitals and include the name of the hospital and/or university over and over again in the form of location and directions?

 

Why people spend there money on "drugs" that contain no active ingredients?

 

Why are so many of these shops associating with proven treatments in the form of psychiatry etc.?

 

Why do these shops use the words "clinics", "hospitals", "consultant", "referral" etc.?

 

Why are the pricelists not on the door?

[TimmyR 10]

Yes there is. There is a lot about homeopathic medicine that people don't understand for example :

 

Why is so much NHS money being spent on Homeopathic drugs which do not improve health greater than placebo effect?

 

Why are more private practices being set up as fewer patients are referred through the NHS?

 

Why do these shops set themselves up next door to large NHS hospitals and include the name of the hospital and/or university over and over again in the form of location and directions?

 

Why people spend there money on "drugs" that contain no active ingredients?

 

Why are so many of these shops associating with proven treatments in the form of psychiatry etc.?

 

Why do these shops use the words "clinics", "hospitals", "consultant", "referral" etc.?

 

Why are the pricelists not on the door?

 

Simple: because the placebo effect works. I don't however consider it to be ethical to profit from it - which is what homeopaths do.

 

Every one of your statements above can be explained. I really don't understand why you've posted them! They just indicates that money can be made from the placebo effect and so homeopathy becomes prevalent.

 

In answer to your first question about the NHS read this page:

 

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Homeopathy/Pages/Introduction.aspx

It clearly states that "There is no good-quality evidence that homeopathy is effective as a treatment for any health condition".

 

Let me answer your questions, the answers to which are completely understood (well the ones that make sense anyway):

 

Why is so much NHS money being spent on Homeopathic drugs which do not improve health greater than placebo effect? because the placebo effects works not because homeopathy works. You could give each person a sugar pill in place of homeopathic medicine AS HAS BEEN PROVEN MANY TIMES and you get exactly the same benefits. Homeopathy does not work any better than placebo.

 

Why are more private practices being set up as fewer patients are referred through the NHS? Because people can make money from homeopathy, because the placebo effect works. By which I mean people feel better quicker if they are given some kind of medical intervention - doesn't matter what, can be a sugar pill or anything.

 

Why do these shops set themselves up next door to large NHS hospitals and include the name of the hospital and/or university over and over again in the form of location and directions? Because there's lots of ill people there and they are ultimately trying to make money. People get very upset when you try and explain that homeopathy is fake because it undermines their beliefs. They take comfort in these faux medications - I don't think there's anything wrong with that but it is morally wrong that people make money out of it.

 

Why people spend there money on "drugs" that contain no active ingredients? Because they believe they work.

 

Why are so many of these shops associating with proven treatments in the form of psychiatry etc.? No idea what you mean.

 

Why do these shops use the words "clinics", "hospitals", "consultant", "referral" etc.? Beacuse it makes them sound like they are going to help so the placebo effect that is the only mechanism at work here will have greater effect.

 

Why are the pricelists not on the door? No idea what the relevance of this is.

Edited January 8, 2016 by TimmyR

[Annie Bynnol 612]

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Why is so much NHS money being spent on Homeopathic drugs which do not improve health greater than placebo effect? because the placebo effects works not because homeopathy works. You could give each person a sugar pill in place of homeopathic medicine AS HAS BEEN PROVEN MANY TIMES and you get exactly the same benefits. Homeopathy does not work any better than placebo.

 

Why are more private practices being set up as fewer patients are referred through the NHS? Because people can make money from homeopathy, because the placebo effect works. By which I mean people feel better quicker if they are given some kind of medical intervention - doesn't matter what, can be a sugar pill or anything.

 

Why do these shops set themselves up next door to large NHS hospitals and include the name of the hospital and/or university over and over again in the form of location and directions? Because there's lots of ill people there and they are ultimately trying to make money. People get very upset when you try and explain that homeopathy is fake because it undermines their beliefs. They take comfort in these faux medications - I don't think there's anything wrong with that but it is morally wrong that people make money out of it.

 

Why people spend there money on "drugs" that contain no active ingredients? Because they believe they work.

 

Why are so many of these shops associating with proven treatments in the form of psychiatry etc.? No idea what you mean.

 

Why do these shops use the words "clinics", "hospitals", "consultant", "referral" etc.? Beacuse it makes them sound like they are going to help so the placebo effect that is the only mechanism at work here will have greater effect.

 

Why are the pricelists not on the door? No idea what the relevance of this is.

 

Well done! 5/7 correct.

The answer to 5 is: The association with bona fide medical treatments attempt to give credibility to the quackery that is Homeopathy.

The answer to 7 is: The price lists are not discussed until you commit yourself by entering the shop and building empathy which makes you more vulnerable to the quackery that is Homeopathy.

[TimmyR 10]

Well done! 5/7 correct.

The answer to 5 is: The association with bona fide medical treatments attempt to give credibility to the quackery that is Homeopathy.

The answer to 7 is: The price lists are not discussed until you commit yourself by entering the shop and building empathy which makes you more vulnerable to the quackery that is Homeopathy.

 

Ah i see you are in agreement that homeopathy is a sham. I misunderstood that bit!

[onewheeldave 22]

One very substantial positive about homeopathy, is that there is no possibility of side-effects.

 

Whereas all the chemical interventions of conventional medicine, have risks of side-effects, maybe mild, maybe severe.

 

As for homeopathy being no more efficacious than placebo- the placebo effect is powerfull, provenly so.

 

Conventional medicine can't prescribe placebos, for erm... 'ethical' reasons. However, if homeopathy is no more than placebo effect, then the patient, having full access to any relevant quality studies showing the equivalence of placebo and homeopathic remedy, can reap the benefits of the placebo, whilst experiencing no side effects, and, there's no breach of ethics.

[Annie Bynnol 612]

One very substantial positive about homeopathy, is that there is no possibility of side-effects.

 

Two major side effects of Homeopathy could lead to death and empty bank accounts.

 

Whilst the placebo effect may temporarily relieve symptoms it will not cure or prevent the progress of a disease. The sufferer might decide to withdraw from medical treatment which could have dire consequences.

 

The initial illusion of success can "addict" a customer to prolonging their costly treatment or try other wallet emptying courses.

[onewheeldave 22]

Two major side effects of Homeopathy could lead to death and empty bank accounts.

 

By 'side-effects' I meant the clinical definition, by which definition, there aren't, and could never be, any side-effects.

 

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Whilst the placebo effect may temporarily relieve symptoms it will not cure or prevent the progress of a disease.

No- the placebo effect can involve actual physical changes- it's not about temporary relief of symptoms.

 

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The sufferer might decide to withdraw from medical treatment which could have dire consequences.

 

They might. However, they could decide to withdraw from medical treatment without homeopathy.

 

Additionally, if they stay on medical treatment, there could also be dire consequences- mistakes are made, and, side effects occur, with a fairly high frequency.

Edited January 9, 2016 by onewheeldave