January 2016 bus service changes

[Andy C 86]

Some minor changes by First from Sunday 3rd January and from Sunday 24th January, mainly tweaks to journey times to improve punctuality and some route changes to buses on Attercliffe Common where new bus priority measures have been installed.

 

The new timetables can be found here: http://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/servicechanges/

 

routes with changes listed so far are:

3 Nether Edge - Sheffield - Meadowhall Sunday 3 January

18 18a Sheffield (18 ) - Jordanthorpe (18a) - Meadowhall Sunday 3 January

20 Hemsworth - Sheffield - Ecclesfield Sunday 3 January

28 Darnall - Waterthorpe - Aughton Sunday 24 January

35 Sheffield - Meadowhall - Hillsborough Sunday 3 January

38 Hillsborough - Firth Park - Meadowhall Sunday 3 January

40 41 Sheffield - Hackenthorpe (41) - Catcliffe (40) Sunday 24 January

51 Lodge Moor - Sheffield - Charnock Sunday 3 January

71 Rotherham - Tinsley Park - Meadowhall Sunday 24 January

72 72a Rotherham - Catcliffe - Sheffield Sunday 24 January

75 76 Lowedges (76) - Batemoor (75) - Shiregreen Sunday 3 January

85 86 Lowedges (86) - Chancet Wood (85) - High Green Sunday 3 January

97 98 Totley Brook (98 ) - Totley (97) - Hillsborough Sunday 3 January

181 Dore - Hunters Bar - Western Bank Sunday 24 January

X7 X13 Sheffield - Sunnyside (X13) - Maltby (X7) Monday 25 January

 

First are also launching a new carnet ticket exclusivey on m-ticketing - 10 singles journeys for £18 (ie £1.80 per ride) - however during January there is a launch promotion where you get 12 journeys for the price of 10. http://www.firstgroup.com/south-yorkshire/more/more-your-money-our-january-offer

 

There are also price increases from 2nd January to Travelmaster tickets that include train travel.

 

On Supertram the £1.50 single will be increased to £1.60 from 10th January, however a return ticket for those short journeys will be introduced at £3.

Edited December 31, 2015 by Andy C

[Guest busdriver1]

 

The new timetables can be found here: http://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/servicechanges/

 

 

72 72a Rotherham - Catcliffe - Sheffield Sunday 24 January

 

 

 

Not serving Arundel Gate.

[Jeffrey Shaw 90]

Can't they bloomin' stop messing about with our buses?

Is the aim just to baffle everyone so much that no-one will know where/when services run?

[dutch 68]

I once saw a house in Sheffield where the 15 mm gas pipe had been increased to 22mm. But they only increased it in visible places with easy access, in all hidden cavities it stayed 15 mm. End result, you are worse off than before and the big show only makes matters worse.

 

Why do I have the feeling we are dealing with similar fiddlers here who are not increasing real service and instead are flapping round adjusting numbers on the paperwork.

Edited December 30, 2015 by dutch

[smh2004 10]

 

There are also price increases from 2nd January to Travelmaster tickets that include train travel.

 

How much are these going up to? Can only find the link where they're showing the current prices? Unless I'm looking in the wrong place

[Funky_Gibbon 42]

Why do I have the feeling we are dealing with similar fiddlers here who are not increasing real service and instead are flapping round adjusting numbers on the paperwork.

 

Because that's exactly what they're doing.

 

My service, the 35, became an hourly service in November because of a cretinous decision not to run half of the buses from Sheffield to Meadowhall. In reality it became a 2 hour service because it would go missing so frequently around rush hour that it's a novelty when it turns up.

 

The January 'solution' to this appears to be to increase the scheduled time between services to 1 hour 10 minutes, factoring in the delay and crossing fingers, rather than doing a simple thing like letting the bus with its terminus at Sandstone Road instead go to Meadowhall before heading back to town. Even with Christmas traffic around Meadowhall that would cut the waiting time by a minimum of 20-25 minutes without having to run a single extra bus.

[Andy C 86]

How much are these going up to? Can only find the link where they're showing the current prices? Unless I'm looking in the wrong place

 

http://www.travelsouthyorkshire.com/kyi_TMPricesJan2016/

 

It is only the train inclusive tickets that are going up to reflect the annual price review on the National Rail Network.

 

The Bus only and bus & tram products (Citywide, Connect etc) are unchanged.

 

---------- Post added 30-12-2015 at 12:02 ----------

 

Because that's exactly what they're doing.

 

My service, the 35, became an hourly service in November because of a cretinous decision not to run half of the buses from Sheffield to Meadowhall. In reality it became a 2 hour service because it would go missing so frequently around rush hour that it's a novelty when it turns up.

 

The January 'solution' to this appears to be to increase the scheduled time between services to 1 hour 10 minutes, factoring in the delay and crossing fingers, rather than doing a simple thing like letting the bus with its terminus at Sandstone Road instead go to Meadowhall before heading back to town. Even with Christmas traffic around Meadowhall that would cut the waiting time by a minimum of 20-25 minutes without having to run a single extra bus.

 

Basically they discovered the journey time in reality, with traffic etc, was longer than allowed for in the timetable at certain times, so the changes reflect that, make the journey time more realistic, therefore the service more reliable.

 

---------- Post added 30-12-2015 at 12:03 ----------

 

Can't they bloomin' stop messing about with our buses?

Is the aim just to baffle everyone so much that no-one will know where/when services run?

 

They aren't big changes, just 'tinkering' with the times now they have experience of operation to make the scheduled journey time more realistic and therefore the service more reliable.

[northernboy 13]

I still wish they would sort out the real-time tracker, just had a look for my stops and it still only works on half the scheduled services.

[dutch 68]

Basically they discovered the journey time in reality, with traffic etc, was longer than allowed for in the timetable at certain times, so the changes reflect that, make the journey time more realistic, therefore the service more reliable.

 

---------- Post added 30-12-2015 at 12:03 ----------

 

 

They aren't big changes, just 'tinkering' with the times now they have experience of operation to make the scheduled journey time more realistic and therefore the service more reliable.

 

What they should have done was to add another bus and make it a 35 minute service, knowing that many of them disappear in these fantasy journey times anyway. Then it would have been sorted a lot better instead of getting two busses back to back after waiting two hours now.

 

---------- Post added 30-12-2015 at 12:53 ----------

 

If a bus is supposed to come once every hour two are needed to make that a reality.

[Theturtle 10]

First, more like first for messing up your lifestyle

[Fudbeer 12]

The 85/86 situation continues to develop.

 

While the 86 seems to track more regularly and are well used most 85's dont seem to track run late and are often empty at Hutcliffe wood.

 

They also appear to have the oldest buses of First's fleet!

[Solomon1 10]

Can't they bloomin' stop messing about with our buses? Is the aim just to baffle everyone so much that no-one will know where/when services run?

 

Well done to everyone who voted Conservative!