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It's not certain how old this document is. The full size hs2 trains would need significant changes as they are twice as long and wider than existing trains. But, we won't be getting these, we are getting classic compatibles which as the name implies are the same size as existing trains albeit a bit longer at 200m. Hs2 have said that not much work will be needed at midland to use classic compatibles.

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Freddie65, what would you rather do? New rail infrastructure of any significance always causes inconvenience.

But it is worth it in the long run.

When the Victorians built the original Midland railway viaduct along the sheaf valley they had to bulldoze 1000 brand new homes.

That's my definition of inconvenience not this!

 

Well said.

 

I wondered how long it would take before the moaners started up about the "inconvenience and disruption" caused by HS2. Its a major infrastructure project, what the hell did they think was going to happen no matter where it was sited. If it went to some respawned victoria station it would still have required major construction and rerouting work.

 

They would soon be crying if we were scrubbed off the plans altogether. People carry on with the whinging and that might just happen.

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I wonder if the commuters in Sheffield realise what a complete disaster HS2 will now be for Sheffield area?

 

The decision by Sheffield Council to lobby for a station at Victoria has well and truly back fired.

 

The poor folk of Sheffield will now have to endure 6 years of horrendous disruption at Sheffield Midland station whilst the station is reconfigured to accept HS2 trains. This will not only affect rail passengers, but road and tram users will also suffer as the tram and road networks around Sheffield station will need to be reconfigured.

 

Even worse, commuters who use local services will find that their train journey's will be longer to make way for HS2 as existing services will be cut and delayed, once the HS2 trains are running on the existing Midland line.

 

And all this could have been avoided if Sheffield Council had accepted the Meadowhall proposal, which would not have impacted one bit on existing rail services, or Sheffield Midland station.

 

Thank you Julie Dore!

 

Pointless post is pointless. Go rant somewhere else if you have nothing of significance to add please.

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Freddie65, what would you rather do? New rail infrastructure of any significance always causes inconvenience.

 

Electrification of the Midland Main Line instead of HS2 probably wouldn't.

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What a pathetic post . Talk about moaning for moanings sake.

Sheffield council should be applauded for fighting its corner to get the station where we have .

There was a great danger we could have missed out altogether which really would have made our great city a backwater village in generations to come.

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What a pathetic post . Talk about moaning for moanings sake.

Sheffield council should be applauded for fighting its corner to get the station where we have .

There was a great danger we could have missed out altogether which really would have made our great city a backwater village in generations to come.

 

Time will tell. No applause from me till I see results.

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I wonder if the commuters in Sheffield realise what a complete disaster HS2 will now be for Sheffield area?

 

The decision by Sheffield Council to lobby for a station at Victoria has well and truly back fired.

 

The poor folk of Sheffield will now have to endure 6 years of horrendous disruption at Sheffield Midland station whilst the station is reconfigured to accept HS2 trains. This will not only affect rail passengers, but road and tram users will also suffer as the tram and road networks around Sheffield station will need to be reconfigured.

 

Even worse, commuters who use local services will find that their train journey's will be longer to make way for HS2 as existing services will be cut and delayed, once the HS2 trains are running on the existing Midland line.

 

And all this could have been avoided if Sheffield Council had accepted the Meadowhall proposal, which would not have impacted one bit on existing rail services, or Sheffield Midland station.

 

Thank you Julie Dore!

 

What did you expect - it to just appear overnight. Stop moaning.

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Well after all the spouting about the Northern Powerhouse, Grayling admits the Tories may ditch the Northern part of HS2. The Transport Secretary told a rail industry conference the second phase was “not in the bag” and the industry had to make the case.

So what do they have to do to make the case?

 

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/failing-chris-grayling-admits-tories-13532890

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Well after all the spouting about the Northern Powerhouse, Grayling admits the Tories may ditch the Northern part of HS2. The Transport Secretary told a rail industry conference the second phase was “not in the bag” and the industry had to make the case.

So what do they have to do to make the case?

 

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/failing-chris-grayling-admits-tories-13532890

 

Literally dig up Leeds and plonk it just outside Luton. If calamity grayling has let the cat out the bag hs2 past birmingham is finished.

 

I'll give it month before crossrail 3 is launched.

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Well after all the spouting about the Northern Powerhouse, Grayling admits the Tories may ditch the Northern part of HS2. The Transport Secretary told a rail industry conference the second phase was “not in the bag” and the industry had to make the case.

So what do they have to do to make the case?

 

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/failing-chris-grayling-admits-tories-13532890

 

They are now recognising that the current Phase 2b plan fails in almost all its objectives in relation to the supposed Northern Powerhouse...never mind it's failure in South Yorkshire terms.

Over the last few weeks Hs2's demolition figures have been exposed as nothing more than a fantasy case made to Grayling to justify the route ...which is now proving embarrassing...Mexborough demolitions are now 4 times as high as quoted to Parliament...and the loss of the Hilton Hotel and Asda's national hq in Leeds cannot be glossed over.

Caroline Flint has been the first MP to nail it publicly...a version of Hs3 designed by TFN to connect the North together is what is needed.

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Well after all the spouting about the Northern Powerhouse, Grayling admits the Tories may ditch the Northern part of HS2. The Transport Secretary told a rail industry conference the second phase was “not in the bag” and the industry had to make the case.

So what do they have to do to make the case?

 

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/failing-chris-grayling-admits-tories-13532890

 

Cancel the whole thing. It's already stopped us getting electrification of the lines up to Leeds. The costs of the project keep rising, countless people's lives are being disrupted for the sake of shaving 20 minutes off the time to London.

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Cancel the whole thing. It's already stopped us getting electrification of the lines up to Leeds. The costs of the project keep rising, countless people's lives are being disrupted for the sake of shaving 20 minutes off the time to London.

 

It's NOT ABOUT SPEED.

 

It's all about CAPACITY.

 

How many times has this been said and yet people still bang on about 20 minutes.

 

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What a pathetic post . Talk about moaning for moanings sake.

Sheffield council should be applauded for fighting its corner to get the station where we have .

There was a great danger we could have missed out altogether which really would have made our great city a backwater village in generations to come.

 

Don't be ridiculous.

SCC managed to go from Sheffield actually having an HS2 station, to Sheffield being on a by-line. They cut of our nose to spite our face and through out OUR baby with the bathwater.

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