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Just how prohibitively expensive would widening the tunnels be when we're talking about budgets of 10s of billions?

 

Probably cheaper to cut new ones as silly as it sounds.

 

The oldest tunnels are pretty much derelict, so before any work could start they'd need making safe.

Then there's the question if there is sufficient room between the tunnels to make them wider without having issues with weakness and such.

 

The more recent tunnels now contain alot of national grid cables and stuff, so again before even getting any work started you'd need to spend loads of money sorting that lot out.

 

Thats before you get into the question of where do you actually want the new line to go? Follow the path of the old woodhead line or take a new one ???

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At least they've found the money for Cross Rail 2...........

 

The South East votes Tory, so the government will prioritise their heartlands and marginal areas over hard red areas.

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The South East votes Tory, so the government will prioritise their heartlands and marginal areas over hard red areas.

 

But great swathes of london vote labour?

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But great swathes of london vote labour?

 

Crossrail 2 is to transport commuters in from Hertfordshire and Surrey into London, it's not really for people that live in London

 

London itself is generally a 50:50 Tory-Labour split

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The South East votes Tory, so the government will prioritise their heartlands and marginal areas over hard red areas.

Much of the route of the Midland Mainline which isn't being electrified voted Tory as well. Amber Valley, Broxtowe, Erewash, Loughborough, as well as Derbyshire North East elected Tory MPs. Sherwood also did and even Mansfield as well, which isn't far from that line. The majorities are all less than 5,500 so lets see if they vote Tory next time after this disgraceful snub.

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But great swathes of london vote labour?

 

What has that got to do with the SE commutes from the Conservative constituencies into London?

 

The Labour constituencies are lucky to be part of the vastly subsidised SE rail and Tfl underground, overground and buses, which brings these commuters into and around London.

 

£8 billion a year.

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What has that got to do with the SE commutes from the Conservative constituencies into London?

 

The Labour constituencies are lucky to be part of the vastly subsidised SE rail and Tfl underground, overground and buses, which brings these commuters into and around London.

 

£8 billion a year.

 

I was responding to an earlier poster who said most of SE england voted tory. A quicjk check on the crossrail 2 route shows enfield getting stations (if Ive read it right) and both enfield seats are labour.

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I was responding to an earlier poster who said most of SE england voted tory. A quicjk check on the crossrail 2 route shows enfield getting stations (if Ive read it right) and both enfield seats are labour.

 

"Crossrail 2 is a new proposed railway linking the national rail networks in Surrey and Hertfordshire via an underground tunnel through London." Crossrail 2 website

 

Hertfordshire's eleven MPs are all Conservatives.

 

Surrey's eleven MPs are all Conservatives.

This includes Chris Grayling the current Secretary of State for Transport, Cabinet ministers Philip Hammond a previous Secretary of State for Transport, Michael Gove and Jeremy Hunt.

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Anywhere along or near the route is going to benefit massively from quicker transport into London.

This usually means a tasty bump in the value of the houses people own there.

 

No wonder folk are all in favour for CrossRail2.

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"Crossrail 2 is a new proposed railway linking the national rail networks in Surrey and Hertfordshire via an underground tunnel through London." Crossrail 2 website

 

Hertfordshire's eleven MPs are all Conservatives.

 

Surrey's eleven MPs are all Conservatives.

This includes Chris Grayling the current Secretary of State for Transport, Cabinet ministers Philip Hammond a previous Secretary of State for Transport, Michael Gove and Jeremy Hunt.

 

If you look at your own link it shows all the proposed stations, many of which are not in Hertfordshire or Surrey. The line will service a lot of very Labour areas including Dalston, Seven Sisters, Wood Green, Tooting and Clapham as well as Lib-Dem Kingston. In any case it serves very few of the 22 constituencies you've quoted. It barely touches Hertfordshire.

 

The line won't just be used by people travelling from Surrey or Hertfordshire into London. It'll be used by people getting on at one stop in London and getting off at another stop in London. It will also have intersections with Crossrail One and tube lines. At a guess I'd say that even tourists might use it. To say that Tory commuters in the leafy Home Counties will benefit most is ridiculous.

 

London's public transport infrastructure needs upgrades anyway. The problem is that the government is funding London but not some of the provinces.

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