BigAl1 142 #1549 Posted August 25, 2021 15 hours ago, Andy C said: HS2 eastern leg building a new main line from Birmingham to Leeds would have created valuable extra capacity - the Cross Country trains could run on the new high speed line as well as Leeds-London services freeing up capacity on the existing lines for more regional trains and freight - and it is unlikely we are going to see anything near that benefit with any investment that does happen. I wouldn't be surprised to actually see service cuts and fares increases as the government claws back money spent on Covid funding with any investment in electrification requiring a business case of lowering operating costs. Unfortunately you are probably correct in fares increase and cuts in services but all that will do is make it even harder to find a business case to put up the wires. One day the government will learn that increasing fares does not automatically lead to an increase in revenue (price sensitivity ) and may well have the opposite effect. In these post covid times this is almost a given as many commuters will prefer to work from home or go to the office a couple of days a week/month and for leisure higher fares + lower frequencies is guaranteed to suppress demand Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bilge 34 #1550 Posted November 15, 2021 Well that was all a waste of money, time and effort. This is just the latest example of the Tories 'levelling up' that the gullible voted for. You lot in Sheff and elsewhere can make do and mend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchemist 35 #1551 Posted November 15, 2021 is anyone REALLY surprised at this?? I predicted it years back. Also, dont expect any money to actually be spent on upgrades, no matter what they will claim Thursday. It will turn out that London needs the money more for another underground track, or replacing the entire bus fleet with state of the art electric models, or the PM wants another yacht or jumbo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat 11 #1552 Posted November 15, 2021 I'm shook. Shook to my core. I never saw it coming. Honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
BigAl1 142 #1553 Posted November 15, 2021 1 hour ago, alchemist said: is anyone REALLY surprised at this?? I predicted it years back. Also, dont expect any money to actually be spent on upgrades, no matter what they will claim Thursday. It will turn out that London needs the money more for another underground track, or replacing the entire bus fleet with state of the art electric models, or the PM wants another yacht or jumbo Really you predicted that they would build the eastern leg of HS2 with a 60 mile gap which is what they are doing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jgt1 10 #1554 Posted November 16, 2021 HS2 to Sheffield will not happen. Watch this space Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
BigAl1 142 #1555 Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Jgt1 said: HS2 to Sheffield will not happen. Watch this space No need we already know this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest makapaka #1556 Posted November 16, 2021 Remember this next time you go the ballot box and get these out. worst government we’ve ever had. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
briret 9 #1557 Posted November 16, 2021 It just proves what everyone says about him. You can't believe a word Bo-jo says Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
nightrider 13 #1558 Posted November 16, 2021 3 hours ago, makapaka said: Remember this next time you go the ballot box and get these out. worst government we’ve ever had. most of our MP's are labour round here aren't they? The tories tend to give funding only to those who vote for them, so if you think the tories would win the next GE its logical to vote for them if you want infrastructure funding. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
bassett one 440 #1559 Posted November 16, 2021 another mess by bungling boris,mistake after mistake,lies galore,will be replaced before the next election ,with promises galore to rectify mistakes,any way we cannot be short of cash,how many million a day extra was on that bus? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sadbrewer 20 #1560 Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) On 15/11/2021 at 15:12, Bilge said: Well that was all a waste of money, time and effort. This is just the latest example of the Tories 'levelling up' that the gullible voted for. You lot in Sheff and elsewhere can make do and mend. To be fair, Sheffield City Council are largely to blame for not only Sheffield but also South Yorkshire not being included. HS2's 2014 plan was to build the South Yorkshire Station at Meadowhall... Barnsley, Rotherham and Doncaster were all in favour as was Sheffield Chamber of Commerce and the region's MP's, whether you agree with HS2 in principle or not I think it's fair to say that location had the best connectivity any where in the region, but Julie Dore lobbied heavily against Meadowhall, spending a lot of money to do so, she wanted the HS2 station to be at Victoria, to fit in with SCC's Grey to Green plan. Sir David Higgins ( Chair of HS2) came out publicly to warn HS2 were not building a railway that went in and out of cities as it would lower the speeds and increase journey times. HS2 were aware the budget was spiralling out of control and took the opportunity to save money ( Meadowhall Station would have been very expensive) and moved the route to a cheaper one and threw a few red herrings out about Parkway Station's elsewhere in South Yorkshire to keep the politicians in the region onside. High speed rail for Sheffield was lost at that point. Edited November 16, 2021 by sadbrewer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...