Campaign grows to switch the building of HS2 station to Sheffield city

[modforlife 10]

This is a long , long thread now. My take on this is that now Royal accent as been given the project is going to happen . Winge about the cost and benefits as much as you want , but it's a fact it will be built.

The in fighting , the objections to various locations puts Sheffield in great danger of missing out altogether .

If we don't get the station in the city centre it will be scandalous.

The 4 th biggest city in England , with no airport and no HS2 seriously puts businesses off investing in the town centre and surrounding areas.

In years to come we will see Leeds and Manchester prosper yet further at our expense.

[LeMaquis 10]

....now Royal accent as been given.....

 

Posh train drivers?

[*Wallace* 333]

Apparently it will go to Meadowhall official announcement Monday.

 

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Radio says the M18.

[alchemist 36]

SCC has got its way then, no HST to the Sheffield region. The champers will be flowing down the town hall today.

 

A tremendous example of snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory in a fit of tantrum

[Chez2 10]

Apparently it will go to Meadowhall official announcement Monday.

 

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Radio says the M18.

 

I'm confused by your posts, can you clarify please? I thought the Meadowhall was one option or the alternative was a route for the track close to the M18 which would stop elsewhere.

[pss60 10]

Apparently it will go to Meadowhall official announcement Monday.

 

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Radio says the M18.

It will almost certainly be by a spur off the main high speed line just south of Clay Cross onto the Nottingham leg of the Midland Mainline tracks. The main high speed line will run to Leeds following the M18 and through Mexborough. Classic compatibles built to the conventional British loading gauge will serve Sheffield Midland and Liverpool Lime Street. Meanwhile Leeds, Manchester and Birmingham will get the Continental loading gauge captives.

Edited July 13, 2017 by pss60

[wrinkly67 10]

Apparently it will go to Meadowhall official announcement Monday.

 

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Radio says the M18.

 

How do you know this? And aren't they two different routes? Confused!

[Chez2 10]

It will almost certainly be by a spur off the main high speed line just south of Clay Cross onto the Nottingham leg of the Midland Mainline tracks. The main high speed line will run to Leeds following the M18 and through Mexborough. Classic compatibles built to the conventional British loading gauge will serve Sheffield Midland and Liverpool Lime Street. Meanwhile Leeds, Manchester and Birmingham will get the Continental loading gauge captives.

 

Oh I see. Well done Sheffield council! I could never understand their 'logic' in wanting HS2 in the city centre anyway, not from building the region point of view. They seem to have a vey myopic view of business and the region in general.

 

There is a lot of development Mexborough / Barnsley way on so no doubt useful to the large industrial areas recently developed and currently under construction.

[Cyclone 10]

This is a long , long thread now. My take on this is that now Royal accent as been given the project is going to happen . Winge about the cost and benefits as much as you want , but it's a fact it will be built.

The in fighting , the objections to various locations puts Sheffield in great danger of missing out altogether .

If we don't get the station in the city centre it will be scandalous.

The 4 th biggest city in England , with no airport and no HS2 seriously puts businesses off investing in the town centre and surrounding areas.

In years to come we will see Leeds and Manchester prosper yet further at our expense.

 

This sort of idiocy is why we won't have a station at all now.

SCC and some of the people in Sheffield are so stupid it beggars belief!

[nightrider 13]

This sort of idiocy is why we won't have a station at all now.

SCC and some of the people in Sheffield are so stupid it beggars belief!

 

I've lost track of this.

 

So now HS2 will have a non HS2 branch to connect into Meadowhall?

 

And SCC proposed HS2 comes via the current Sheffield station?

 

What was the original HS2 proposal for Sheffield then, if it was not a non HS2 branch into Meadowhall and why was it dropped?

[Cyclone 10]

The original proposal was a full speed HS2 line running through Meadowhall.

SCC campaigned to not have that and instead to have the line run through the city centre.

 

Now they have neither, and we will have a regular speed line as a spur from the HS2 line, meaning much less frequent trains and a (slightly) longer journey time, perhaps with a connection to make to actually get an HS2 train.

 

The argument they made was that HS2 being 5 minutes from the city centre was useless and that people wouldn't use it... Now it will be considerably further away and of much less benefit to the city.

[nightrider 13]

The original proposal was a full speed HS2 line running through Meadowhall.

SCC campaigned to not have that and instead to have the line run through the city centre.

 

Now they have neither, and we will have a regular speed line as a spur from the HS2 line, meaning much less frequent trains and a (slightly) longer journey time, perhaps with a connection to make to actually get an HS2 train.

 

The argument they made was that HS2 being 5 minutes from the city centre was useless and that people wouldn't use it... Now it will be considerably further away and of much less benefit to the city.

 

Oh I see. But why have HS2 not just stuck with the original default option of HS2 going through Meadowhall?

 

Surely that is better than what is now proposed. Have SCC campaigned for the city centre option by saying Meadowhall is no good at all (rather than its good, but we can do even better) resulting in the current situation?