Junior Doctors row: 98% vote to strike

[JFKvsNixon 11]

I'm not 100% sure why they're striking,is it because the hours are being cut and the weekend becomea a normal working day so not being paid overtime?surely if that's the case more doctors need to be set on.

 

The British Medical Association are claiming that Department of Health wanting to cut the junior doctors pay for work on the week end, whilst removing the safeguards put in place limiting the hours that junior doctors can work. Basically the DoH wants the junior doctors to work for longer on less money.

[Eric Arthur 10]

The British Medical Association are claiming that Department of Health wanting to cut the junior doctors pay for work on the week end, whilst removing the safeguards put in place limiting the hours that junior doctors can work. Basically the DoH wants the junior doctors to work for longer on less money.

 

The BMA seem to be trying to make it more complicated to obfuscate the norm by giving extreme examples, but this might help. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11887308/How-much-are-junior-doctors-paid-and-why-are-they-threatening-to-strike.html

[JFKvsNixon 11]

The BMA seem to be trying to make it more complicated to obfuscate the norm by giving extreme examples, but this might help. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/nhs/11887308/How-much-are-junior-doctors-paid-and-why-are-they-threatening-to-strike.html

 

Thanks for googling me a link, but I am well aware of the issues. One of which is the DoH's disingenuous attitude towards the negotiations.

[ukdobby 224]

So it appears to be a money thing.Wonder if a doctor got burgled at the weekend and the policed asked them to wait till Monday,would they be happy?

[Solomon1 10]

Sounds like a pretty hefty mandate to me.

 

Good for the Docs!

 

People Power WINS

 

Over

 

Corporate Greed

 

Each and EVERY time!

[banjodeano 31]

So it appears to be a money thing.Wonder if a doctor got burgled at the weekend and the policed asked them to wait till Monday,would they be happy?

they already work the weekend, whats your point?

[JFKvsNixon 11]

So it appears to be a money thing.Wonder if a doctor got burgled at the weekend and the policed asked them to wait till Monday,would they be happy?

 

I don't understand your point.

 

The argument isn't about the junior doctors working at the weekends, they already do. What the DoH wants to do is pay them less for working on the weekend and remove the remove the safeguards that limited the hours that junior doctors work.

 

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Good for the Docs!

 

People Power WINS

 

Over

 

Corporate Greed

 

Each and EVERY time!

 

Well no, the DoH say that they may just impose the new contract on the junior doctors.

[Solomon1 10]

Well no, the DoH say that they may just impose the new contract on the junior doctors

 

If they do

 

The NHS is RIP

 

And more youngsters

 

Will be broken

[ukdobby 224]

they already work the weekend, whats your point?

 

They work it as overtime by the sounds of it,the should make it part of the working week,like a lot of other people do.

[JFKvsNixon 11]

They work it as overtime by the sounds of it,the should make it part of the working week,like a lot of other people do.

 

The weekend/nights are part of their normal working shift patterns. As I've mentioned earlier what the DoH wants to do is pay the junior doctors less for working them, and remove the safeguards that limited the hours that junior doctors work.

[Solomon1 10]

They work it as overtime by the sounds of it,the should make it part of the working week,like a lot of other people do

 

Because saving lives

 

Is just like

 

Working at checkout

[Eric Arthur 10]

remove the safeguards that limited the hours that junior doctors work.

 

Not so fast. Here's the actual facts on proposed changes to hours.

 

Contractual hours under the new system will be between 40 and 48, as they are under the current system.

 

However, under the new system, weekly hours will be limited to 72, down from 91 in the current system.

 

In addition, the new system will not allow more than four night shifts to be worked consecutively, abolishing the week of nights possible in the current system.

 

Also, the contract would introduce a limit of five long days in a row, a maximum shift length of 13 hours and a limit of 56 on the average weekly hours that a junior can work if they have opted out of the WTR.

 

 

People can read the full information for themselves without the BMA union's varnish here. http://hhttp://www.nhsemployers.org/your-workforce/need-to-know/junior-doctors-contract/faqs#Hours of work of work Most people will come to the conclusion that this is a dispute centred on wanting to be paid more for working the fewer hours that doctors keep saying thry should be working.