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sorry? Mrs Thatcher brought this country back from the brink and saved us from the devastation of the unions and Labour and placed us firmly at the forefront of the world.

 

Mrs Thatcher shut down industry, impoverished whole communities, caused the underclass, sold off the family silver, squandered the income from North sea oil, and deregulated the banks which led to the chaos we have today.

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Never voted Tory in my life. Why not debate the points I raised instead of being immature.

 

Immature? Do one will you!

Ill debate when and if i see the point otherwise ill just give my opinion and be done with it. Anyone who thinks Thatcher made this country great, good or even adequate is deluded and not worth talking to. She was an evil nasty old crow who ripped this nation apart then went off to get fat on a big pile of cash.

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The highest earners can now earn many hundreds times the average income, and the poorest people are denied income via the inhuman sanctioning regime. Millions now rely on foodbanks and cannot afford to heat, eat, and even bathe.

 

That inhuman sanctioning regime is truly awful.

I cant remember going to jobcentre, but I guess they have a lot of armed guards to fend off those millions to deny them work.

I don't know in what part of Africa do you live in, but here in UK we don't have nearly that many.

 

Far from guaranteeing rather more than a basic standard of life, the social security system no longer guarantees even the most basic standard of life. The unemployed find they are not even guaranteed the basic standard of life guaranteed to even the most repugnant criminals.

 

And that standard would be?

SKY Sport subscription? Fibre optic internet?

Extra bedroom to be converted into a study?

 

Perhaps enough to allow the poor to occasionally frequent pubs as they did for many many centuries, and thus we would have many more pubs than we find in the UK today, after many years of enormous differences between very great wealth and very great poverty.

 

Alcohol consumption is falling and I fail to see this as a bad thing.

It's bad enough stepping into vomit every hundred feet.

And do you really directly link number of pubs to income inequality?

 

It's thanks to her and her gov that this country no longer has enough council homes, hense the bedroom tax we now have.

 

What a crime. If you get a free house you can not have a spare room for a study. Or a library. Unbelievable. And we are claiming we are a developed nation.

 

Which is a reason so many have taken their own lives rather than live on the streets when they can't afford to pay it out of their £72 per week and get evicted. Just so some freeloader from the EU can have their homes.

 

I need to take something seriously mind altering to even comment on that.

Where do you get that from? I mean assumptions you make, not drugs.

 

I call trolls, major ones.

 

Thatcher was a Tory. A dishonest uncaring money centred bitch who cost this country mainly in the north so much pain its unreal.

She was such a bitch that she sent the task force to the Falklands only because her popularity was so low at the time. Had she been riding high in the poles im confident she would have left the Falklanders to rot. She was a vile women.

 

Another one?

 

Mrs Thatcher shut down industry, impoverished whole communities, caused the underclass, sold off the family silver, squandered the income from North sea oil, and deregulated the banks which led to the chaos we have today.

 

And another one. Don't know if trolls or Jeremy Corbyn spamming Sheffield forum through multiple accounts.

Development of power looms impoverished whole communities yet it turned out just fine. Luddite rings a bell?

Moving from low tech subsidised industry to high tech industry that generates taxes is yet another despicable tory thing. That wench.

And where is that chaos? Where do you people all live?

Chaos, millions of unemployed homeless living in streets with no food or committing mass suicides.

You are aware that this is Sheffield in UK forum?

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Immature? Do one will you!

Ill debate when and if i see the point otherwise ill just give my opinion and be done with it. Anyone who thinks Thatcher made this country great, good or even adequate is deluded and not worth talking to. She was an evil nasty old crow who ripped this nation apart then went off to get fat on a big pile of cash.

 

Stop being immature. If you were having a face to face discussion about politics would you tell some to "do one will you"?

 

You do know the FACT that the economy was in a much better state when she left than when she joined don't you?

 

Mrs Thatcher shut down industry, impoverished whole communities, caused the underclass, sold off the family silver, squandered the income from North sea oil, and deregulated the banks which led to the chaos we have today.

 

She caused the underclass? Do you not think the underclass existed before Thatcher? What an incredibly naive claim to make.

 

Deregulation of the banks caused our economy to boom, it has done far more good to our economy than bad.

 

The only communities she negatively impacted were backward thinking luddite communities who hadn't seen the writing on the wall for the past 15 years.

 

She modernised our economy and grew it to become one of the strongest in the world, but because some dinosaurs lost their jobs, she was a bad leader?

 

It was cheaper and cleaner for us to get coal from the other side of the world, so that's what she decided to do.

 

Try to be objective in your opinions.

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Margaret Thatcher said this;

 

 

 

It can be seen in the following video from 10:30;

 

 

She goes on to mention the lowest earners earn half average income, and the highest earners earn some 4 times average income and that this was in fact lower than in the Soviet Union. (At the time of interview).

 

Fast forward 30+ years and we find ourselves in a situation where we do have an enormous difference in very great wealth and very great poverty.

 

The highest earners can now earn many hundreds times the average income, and the poorest people are denied income via the inhuman sanctioning regime. Millions now rely on foodbanks and cannot afford to heat, eat, and even bathe.

 

Far from guaranteeing rather more than a basic standard of life, the social security system no longer guarantees even the most basic standard of life. The unemployed find they are not even guaranteed the basic standard of life guaranteed to even the most repugnant criminals.

 

If Thatcher was in office today, she would recoil in horror at the inequality and she would argue for greater taxes on the rich and increased redistribution of income to the poorest, in order to guarantee the poorest a basic standard of life, and indeed rather more than a basic standard of life.

 

Perhaps enough to allow the poor to occasionally frequent pubs as they did for many many centuries, and thus we would have many more pubs than we find in the UK today, after many years of enormous differences between very great wealth and very great poverty.

 

Many on this forum would label Thatcher a Marxist, Communist or a Socialist, they would call her a 'Leftie' and lament her use of the term the 'rich get rich and the poor get poorer', because she would use this and argue for the rich to become richer and the poor to become richer too.

 

you can't just take one snippet of one quote and define 20 years of hard right rule like that.

 

Thatcher was never a marxist, communist or a socialist. Her closest ally was Reagan.

 

Sorry but this entire post is nonsense.

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Stop being immature. If you were having a face to face discussion about politics would you tell some to "do one will you"?

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Just you..........

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Stop being immature. If you were having a face to face discussion about politics would you tell some to "do one will you"?

 

You do know the FACT that the economy was in a much better state when she left than when she joined don't you?

 

 

 

She caused the underclass? Do you not think the underclass existed before Thatcher? What an incredibly naive claim to make.

 

Deregulation of the banks caused our economy to boom, it has done far more good to our economy than bad.

 

The only communities she negatively impacted were backward thinking luddite communities who hadn't seen the writing on the wall for the past 15 years.

 

She modernised our economy and grew it to become one of the strongest in the world, but because some dinosaurs lost their jobs, she was a bad leader?

 

It was cheaper and cleaner for us to get coal from the other side of the world, so that's what she decided to do.

 

Try to be objective in your opinions.

 

You must not have got the memo....if you live in Yorkshire it is a requirement that you hate Thatcher and the Tories, in addition to always voting Labour....ALWAYS....:hihi:

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Well, certainly don't wish to stir the waters here

 

But... If I had to choose between Blair and Thatcher.

I'd go for the Iron Lady any day.

 

Agree, selling off council houses was a huge mistake. Taking on the unions took Balls. Taking on Argentina took even bigger Balls.

 

Blair....I can't think of a single good thing to say about him. It will be strange when he finally pops off....who the hell will line the streets of London for him?

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Mrs Thatcher shut down industry, impoverished whole communities, caused the underclass, sold off the family silver, squandered the income from North sea oil, and deregulated the banks which led to the chaos we have today.

 

I couldn't agree more. That woman is soley responsible for destroying local communities in the area I live and it's not Yorkshire.

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It's thanks to her and her gov that this country no longer has enough council homes,

No it isn't. She's been out of power for a quarter of a century. We had 13 years of Labour government in that time and they hardly built any council homes.

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I couldn't agree more. That woman is soley responsible for destroying local communities in the area I live and it's not Yorkshire.

 

What area do you live in and what did Thatcher do to it?

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She isn't "solely responsible" for anything. The industries she "closed down" weren't producing products that people wanted to buy. Her government simply stopped subsidising them.

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