onewheeldave   22 #349 Posted November 9, 2017 This is scary and makes a mockery of their figures. And anyone who believes the side effects are small is living in denial.  200 harmed,many serious.....   http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/150804/Fury-at-vaccine-scandal  Frontline health workers, social workers, prison officers and binmen have to be vaccinated against hepatitis B as a condition of their employment.Scandalous that people are forced to accept that vaccination as part of their job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #350 Posted November 10, 2017 They aren't and can't be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #351 Posted November 10, 2017 From http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/150804/Fury-at-vaccine-scandal Although they are not legally forced to have the vaccinations, without them they are not allowed to work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Daven   10 #352 Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) From http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/150804/Fury-at-vaccine-scandal  This is absolute heffer dust.  ---------- Post added 10-11-2017 at 08:57 ----------  They aren't and can't be.  Exactly so. I work for the NHS and have had the 'flu jab, hep B and several other jabs over the years. I was not forced to have any of them but had them to protect myself, my patients and those I love. Education is the key. Edited November 10, 2017 by Daven Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MAC33 Â Â 10 #353 Posted November 10, 2017 As a condition of their employment....... Â Meaning refuse them and you will lose your job Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Daven   10 #354 Posted November 10, 2017 As a condition of their employment....... Meaning refuse them and you will lose your job  Not true. I know of staff members who have refused to have the jabs and are still working. I can only speak for those working in the NHS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #355 Posted November 10, 2017 The article says- Frontline health workers, social workers, prison officers and binmen have to be vaccinated against hepatitis B as a condition of their employment.......... ,,,,,, Although they are not legally forced to have the vaccinations, without them they are not allowed to work. Which sounds like ('front-line') workers can be employed without accepting the vaccine, but will not get any work. Which, if true, means they are effectively forced to comply.  ---------- Post added 10-11-2017 at 09:42 ----------  Not true. I know of staff members who have refused to have the jabs and are still working.  It may be that those staff weren't classed as 'frontline workers'.  They may work in a dept that doesn't enforce.  Whatever the reason, the fact that you know some staff who successfully refused, doesn't mean that other staff aren't forced (or even pressured) to comply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Daven   10 #356 Posted November 10, 2017 (edited) The article says- Which sounds like ('front-line') workers can be employed without accepting the vaccine, but will not get any work.  Which, if true, means they are effectively forced to comply.  ---------- Post added 10-11-2017 at 09:42 ----------   It may be that those staff weren't classed as 'frontline workers'.  They may work in a dept that doesn't enforce.  Whatever the reason, the fact that you know some staff who successfully refused, doesn't mean that other staff aren't forced (or even pressured) to comply. No one is 'forced or pressured to comply'. This isn't Nazi Germany in the 30's and 40's Edited November 10, 2017 by Daven Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #357 Posted November 10, 2017 No one is 'forced or pressured to comply'. This isn't Nazi Germany in the 30's and 40's No-ones mentioned Nazi Germany except you.   According to: Appendix 1: Immunisation Required per NHS Employee Category  from-  http://www.southernhealth.nhs.uk/_resources/assets/inline/full/0/73504.pdf(page 14)  NHS employees (of southernhealth) who are required to have Hep B (plus several other vaccinations), include-  Category 1 Staff involved in direct patient care eg doctors, nurses, healthcare support workers, occupational therapists, physiotherapists, psychology staff, radiographers, chiropodists, pharmacists, dieticians, plaster technicians, audiology staff. Students and trainees of these disciplines with patients Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #358 Posted November 10, 2017 No-ones mentioned Nazi Germany except you.   According to: Appendix 1: Immunisation Required per NHS Employee Category  from-  http://www.southernhealth.nhs.uk/_resources/assets/inline/full/0/73504.pdf(page 14)  NHS employees (of southernhealth) who are required to have Hep B (plus several other vaccinations), include-  Category 1 Staff involved in direct patient care eg doctors, nurses, healthcare support workers, occupational therapists, physiotherapists, psychology staff, radiographers, chiropodists, pharmacists, dieticians, plaster technicians, audiology staff. Students and trainees of these disciplines with patients  You may want to look at para 5:10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #359 Posted November 10, 2017 You may want to look at para 5:10  Of which page? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SnailyBoy   10 #360 Posted November 10, 2017 Of which page?  Page 12 under the heading 'Staff Declining' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...