jemson   10 #145 Posted October 19, 2015  Anyhow, I shall ask again...Why can't teachers find a few minutes to visit the toilet?  Often teachers may be teaching several lessons consecutively all through morning or afternoon. Break-times usually involve speaking to students or duties. You cannot leave young people unsupervised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   206 #146 Posted October 19, 2015 Often teachers may be teaching several lessons consecutively all through morning or afternoon. Break-times usually involve speaking to students or duties. You cannot leave young people unsupervised.  I find it hard to believe that there are no opportunities for a break in all that time. The usual timetable is a couple of lessons then a 15-20 minute break, two more then lunch, then one more to the end of the day. The unions would have a field day if someone wasn't getting their dedicated break. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jemson   10 #147 Posted October 19, 2015 Believe it. As i wrote, break times are often spent with students who may be finishing off work, meetings or doing detentions. Having lunch can also be difficult. The pace of a day teaching is something that many people do not appreciate. The number of social interactions is huge and often intense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hesther   10 #148 Posted October 20, 2015 I find it hard to believe that there are no opportunities for a break in all that time. The usual timetable is a couple of lessons then a 15-20 minute break, two more then lunch, then one more to the end of the day. The unions would have a field day if someone wasn't getting their dedicated break.  The unions are fully aware of the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Annie Bynnol   596 #149 Posted October 20, 2015 I find it hard to believe that there are no opportunities for a break in all that time. The usual timetable is a couple of lessons then a 15-20 minute break, two more then lunch, then one more to the end of the day. The unions would have a field day if someone wasn't getting their dedicated break.  There is no legal or contractual entitlement for any breaks* for teachers in the morning or afternoon sessions also teachers are required to be at work for twenty minutes every school lunchtime.**  *Historically teachers have covered the children's play time by a rota, giving some of their colleagues a break. Head teachers can and do often require/instruct teachers to supervise the childrens' breaks outside this rota.  **The minimum contract a teacher has requires that they work 10 minutes before the morning session to 10 minutes after the morning session and start 10 minutes before the afternoon session to 10 minutes after the afternoon session. Since legal minimum lunchtime is twenty minutes a school lunch should last a minimum of forty minutes.  One of the biggest headaches unions have is sorting out problems associated with teachers missing break cover.  Teachers also volunteer to do 'twilight' training when not required to and attend more than one meeting a week when most are not require to, fail to claim travel allowances for parents evenings and similar events etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ez8004 Â Â 10 #150 Posted October 21, 2015 Doctors are overpaid. Â Apparently not. Doctors are paid what they are worth. If they were overpaid there would be pressure to decrease their pay and it would happen. Since it hasn't happened it means that the NHS deems it reasonable to pay them as they are. Â Teachers on the other hand are paid what they deserve. If teachers don't like it, do what everyone else does when they are in a job they are dissatisfied with and quit. There are others who will fill their place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
amazon123 Â Â 17 #151 Posted October 21, 2015 Apparently not. Doctors are paid what they are worth. If they were overpaid there would be pressure to decrease their pay and it would happen. Since it hasn't happened it means that the NHS deems it reasonable to pay them as they are. Â Teachers on the other hand are paid what they deserve. If teachers don't like it, do what everyone else does when they are in a job they are dissatisfied with and quit. There are others who will fill their place. Â Doctors' pay was massively inflated due to a dodgy contract drawn up under a recent government and increased massively in relation to other professions. This has since been recognised as a mistake by many. this is also partly why there is an outcry from junior doctors who are about to have their pay decreased. Don't you read the news? Â As for teachers - there aren't vast swathes queueing up to enter the profession due in large part to the poor correlation between workload and pay (amongst other things). This is why there is currently a retention and recruitment crisis. Again, don't you read the news? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ez8004 Â Â 10 #152 Posted October 22, 2015 Doctors' pay was massively inflated due to a dodgy contract drawn up under a recent government and increased massively in relation to other professions. This has since been recognised as a mistake by many. this is also partly why there is an outcry from junior doctors who are about to have their pay decreased. Don't you read the news? Â As for teachers - there aren't vast swathes queueing up to enter the profession due in large part to the poor correlation between workload and pay (amongst other things). This is why there is currently a retention and recruitment crisis. Again, don't you read the news? Â I do read the news. Do you? You obviously aren't educated enough to know the difference between a junior doctor and a GP. The so-called contract that is apparently overpaying is the GP contract agreed in 2004. Â The pay dispute now is with junior doctors only. So go back and do a little research. I am surprised if you have a university degree and unable to construct a decent agrument with correct facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
whiteowl   52 #153 Posted October 22, 2015 Teachers on the other hand are paid what they deserve. If teachers don't like it, do what everyone else does when they are in a job they are dissatisfied with and quit. There are others who will fill their place.  Indeed. That's what I did, far more money with a lot less stress. But, hey - who needs Mathematics teacher anyway ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...