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The Bible is a awesome Book even if you dont believe its Gods word

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You see, I just don't think that's gonna work for all the issues a teenager has to deal with.

 

Why not..you have stated that our present moral code is an 'extension' of scripture which I disagree with...even scripture had to be influenced, are you suggesting that all influence derived from religion?.

Present laws dish out justice should you transgress..once the sentence has been delivered and then completed by the perpetrator that's it.

Religious morality taps into the 'afterlife' (ignorance and fear), damnation for eternity or a nice little number at the right of God. The sin of not believing alone will cast you into the bowels of hell. In fact..you can rape, butcher and hump your best friends spouse till you're exhausted as long as you eventually 'believe' at the time of judgement. Our present laws are less dogmatic as those that are laid down by the church...or the 'book'.

 

We've evolved, better educated, more tolerant..and not because of an outdated book. I would hazard to guess most people haven't even read it other than titbits relayed at the odd church meeting at sometime in out lives.

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In fact..you can rape, butcher and hump your best friends spouse till you're exhausted as long as you eventually 'believe' at the time of judgement. Our present laws are less dogmatic as those that are laid down by the church...or the 'book'.

 

Err ............how's this a fact?

 

I would argue that the CPS would dogmatically pursue anybody who availed themselves of the first two activities!

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Yes, good, but is it the full answer?

 

Can you think of something it couldn't cover?

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The source of our modern moral code is ourselves.

 

Yes but maybe we all need a little help to discover that code and be reminded of it.

 

Or have you never contemplated killing your neighbour over his inconsiderate parking? (There's history). Do you meditate perhaps? Or are you a saint in denial? :)

 

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If more logic and reason was taught in schools along with basic human rights and humanitarianism, we would develop greater morals, in my opinion.

 

Yes, good, but is it the full answer?

 

Can you think of something it couldn't cover?

 

Logic, reason, humanitarianism aren't a school lesson, a course, a qualification that you tick off and think "done that". It's a way of life.

 

You can summarise all of science in a half hour documentary if you chose. (It's just clever nerds discovering stuff, right?) but you won't begin to do the subject justice.

 

I think you have more faith in schools than I do. Maybe you don't have the police helicopter hovering over your neighbourhood as much as I do.

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In fact..you can rape, butcher and hump your best friends spouse till you're exhausted as long as you eventually 'believe' at the time of judgement. Our present laws are less dogmatic as those that are laid down by the church...or the 'book'.

 

Err ............how's this a fact?

 

I would argue that the CPS would dogmatically pursue anybody who availed themselves of the first two activities!

 

Yes they would, and quite rightly so. The CPS doesn't use the third element - eternal damnation in the 'afterlife', as a crowbar though, quite the contrary. I don't have to commit any crime in order to burn in hell eternally other than be a heathen.

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Maybe God was an alien of some kind. It sounds more plausible than some kind of superhuman don't you think.

 

Angel1.

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Maybe God was an alien of some kind. It sounds more plausible than some kind of superhuman don't you think.

 

Angel1.

 

I think it's plausible that other life forms exist on other planets..we are proof of that. As for being 'Gods'.......

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building aren't actually church ! its the People of faith who make a church , my church has no building , we give gifts to God which are invested in compassion for the needy

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building aren't actually church ! its the People of faith who make a church , my church has no building , we give gifts to God which are invested in compassion for the needy

 

How does that work?

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How does that work?

 

She's sort of right - there's a church building near me that's now a tyre fitters.

 

Praise be!

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building aren't actually church ! its the People of faith who make a church , my church has no building , we give gifts to God which are invested in compassion for the needy

 

How does that work?

 

She's sort of right - there's a church building near me that's now a tyre fitters.

 

Praise be!

 

I understand that it was the gifts for the god, which are invested. That's what I don't get.

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Logic, reason, humanitarianism aren't a school lesson, a course, a qualification that you tick off and think "done that".

Of course they're not, that's why I suggested that they should be. If they were already taught, there would have been no point in what I've said.

 

It's a way of life.
It can be, once you've learnt about it

You can summarise all of science in a half hour documentary if you chose. (It's just clever nerds discovering stuff, right?) but you won't begin to do the subject justice.

If the school science curriculum consisted of a single half hour video, I'd be more than a little disappointed. Is that what you thought I meant to happen, just a single half hour lesson to develop morality? :suspect:

 

I think you have more faith in schools than I do. Maybe you don't have the police helicopter hovering over your neighbourhood as much as I do.
What is the link you make between your lack of faith in schools and the police helicopter's presence?

 

It's almost like you're saying schools should be helping kids to develop morals (which might reduce the helicopter's presence) but they don't (so you have little faith in them).

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