Syria travellers, Why Should We Care.

[woodmally 10]

That is not was meant and you know it I'm sure.

 

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My bold= We should not have to integrate them, it is their duty to make every effort to integrate to our ways

 

Your right but we cannot simply leave it all up to them. You have someone new coming to live in your area you can make some adjustments. For example a vegetarian comes to your house you will not give them meat. Also I dont see anything wrong with say allowing them time off for their religeous events if they are not Christians. But I would certainly expect them to follow our laws as we should if we were in their country and they should learn our language (a failing we need to improve on when we as a nation go abroad too).

[Celia Paul 10]

I'd get fined for taking my kids out of school in term time yet these incomers can do it on religious grounds, this is quite wrong, this is England.

[Jeffrey Shaw 90]

I'd get fined for taking my kids out of school in term time yet these incomers can do it on religious grounds, this is quite wrong, this is England.

If you did take your children out of school, you'd probably bring them back intact.

Whereas...

[Celia Paul 10]

If you did take your children out of school, you'd probably bring them back intact.

Whereas...

 

Yes but you'd face a fine would those taking children out of school during Eid (spelling) or Ramadan face the same.

[melthebell 862]

I'd get fined for taking my kids out of school in term time yet these incomers can do it on religious grounds, this is quite wrong, this is England.

 

here we go, didnt take long to veer away from the subject of Syria and Terrorism

and the person who managed it is a "noobie" Oo

[SevenRivers 10]

Emigrating from this country isn't and shouldn't be an offence, even to Syria.

Our priority should be ensuring they can NEVER return, under any circumstances. Once they have gone there, they have defected to an enemy entity, should be a one way ticket only.

[Penistone999 10]

The main worry is they might travel over there, take a master class in building bombs and being a thoroughly nasty piece of work - and then use their UK passport to come home and bring the horrors of war with them.

 

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I agree though, if they travel over there to join the terrorists they should have their passport cancelled or something.

 

The Australians have gone as far as cancelling their citizenship and breaking UN law.

 

which is why the minute they fly to Syria their British passport should be revoked and entry back into the UK permanently refused.

 

I dont care about all the cobblers about them being a British citizen ,and their so called Human rights , once they decide to go and join that group of morons ,they should automatically be banned from ever setting foot on British soil again.

 

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So when they get caught in Syria, and Syria want to deport them, where do they deport them too?

 

who cares , if we refuse them entry back here , syria will have to find somewhere else to volley them to.

[JFKvsNixon 11]

who cares , if we refuse them entry back here , syria will have to find somewhere else to volley them to.

 

Hypothetically speaking - I bet you'd care, if some other countries took the same attitude towards us and we're not be able to deport our criminals and terrorists.

[Guest]

The following comment is from someone who posted on The Huffington Post.

 

Think it was brilliant and spot on.

 

I've served 21 yrs in the US Army and this is what I've come to realize:

--The CIA and Special Forces helped train the Mujhideen (future Taliban and Al-Qaeda leaders) in the 1980s to fight against the Russian armies.

--The CIA and Special Forces helped train Saddam's Military...primarily Sunnis (future ISIS fighters) in the 1980s to fight against Iran

--In the 1980s and 1990s, CIA, Special Forces and the Fort Benning School of Americas helped train Salvadorans and Nicaraguans (future Death Squads and Contra fighters)

--In 2003, we began training Afghans (future Taliban) to fight against Al-Qaeda (which we originally trained)

--In 2006, we began training Iraqis...primarily Shiites (future Hezbollah fighters) to fight against Al-Qaeda (which we originally trained)

--In 2012, we began training Syrian rebels (future ISIL fighters) to fight against Bashar AlAssad

--In 2014, we began training more Syrians to fight against ISIS...many of which will switch sides in the future and fight against us and our allies

 

Basically, we have a history of training future Terrorists. I personally have trained future terrorists at the Fort Benning School of Americas, in Iraq, and in Afghanistan. Of course, at the time we were just doing what we were told...to train them to fight our current enemies. Little did we know that they would become our future enemies.

 

ISIS is just the new flavor of the month that we prodded by way of CIA and Special Forces. ISIS Soldiers are basically Sunnis who we trained in the past. The Government used the media by releasing the fake beheadings of journalists to garner support...mainly from the gullible Westerners. This is their way of manufacturing Wars. The Government will do this until the end of time. The reason why they love to go to War is because the vast majority of politicians have Defense stocks and because the big wigs...their masters...make Billions off of Wars. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee. Don't be a sucker again by supporting sending ground troops....it's a waste of time, money and lives.

[Eater Sundae 12]

That is not was meant and you know it I'm sure.

 

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My bold= We should not have to integrate them, it is their duty to make every effort to integrate to our ways

 

...and what if they're made to feel like second rate citizens, regardless of what they do?

 

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As far as I am aware, Australia has not yet revoked any such citizenship.

They do have a bill in parliament that, if passed, would allow revocation of citizenship from a dual national i.e. noone would be left stateless.

 

You need to be very careful with such idea, because if other states reciprocate, you could be left with undesirable aliens that you cannot deport.

 

That's why I asked the question in the first place, because of the problems that would arise if we (or anyone) were to make people stateless.

[Celia Paul 10]

...and what if they're made to feel like second rate citizens, regardless of what they do?

 

Example would help please.