El Cid   220 #3493 Posted November 4, 2013 (edited) Perhaps this, "Study says warmer temperatures are largely due to natural 300-year cycles"   The links that Cyclone posted a while ago showed that levels have ups and downs lasting thousands of years. But prior to this century levels were roughly flat or 2,000 years. So a 300 year cycle is just a daily mail headline?  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Holocene_Sea_Level.png Edited November 4, 2013 by El Cid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #3494 Posted November 4, 2013 The links that Cyclone posted a while ago showed that levels have ups and downs lasting thousands of years. But prior to this century levels were roughly flat or 2,000 years. So a 300 year cycle is just a daily mail headline? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Holocene_Sea_Level.png  Prior to the 20th century what accurate readings were there for any of the global warming claims?  I think you will find the headlines of the global warming brigade are far less accurate than the Daily Mails. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   220 #3495 Posted November 4, 2013 Prior to the 20th century what accurate readings were there for any of the global warming claims?  It depends on what level of certainty you want.  Most scientists believe in man made climate change, to some extent. So it is prudent to take action to reduce our footprint.  Reducing our footprint can make us happier and healthier, instead of becomming bloaters that rarely exercise and consume too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #3496 Posted November 4, 2013 It depends on what level of certainty you want. Most scientists believe in man made climate change, to some extent. So it is prudent to take action to reduce our footprint.  Reducing our footprint can make us happier and healthier, instead of becomming bloaters that rarely exercise and consume too much.  Reducing your footprint while others expand theirs can only make you poorer and more stupid, but you carry on denying yourself, someone will make use of your share. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   220 #3497 Posted November 4, 2013 Reducing your footprint while others expand theirs can only make you poorer and more stupid, but you carry on denying yourself, someone will make use of your share.  The UK, along with other developed countries caused our massive use of resourses, so we should be the first to cut back. The UKs Department for International Development is doing its best to make poorer countries richer and more developed. Perhaps this too is counter productive to our effects to reduce our own footprint.  But it must be ethical to do the right thing?  People in this country dont starve or die from cold conditions because we are poor, they die because the Government are inept. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #3498 Posted November 4, 2013 The UK, along with other developed countries caused our massive use of resourses, so we should be the first to cut back. The UKs Department for International Development is doing its best to make poorer countries richer and more developed. Perhaps this too is counter productive to our effects to reduce our own footprint.  But it must be ethical to do the right thing?  People in this country dont starve or die from cold conditions because we are poor, they die because the Government are inept.  Yep they should reopen the coal mines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #3499 Posted November 5, 2013 It depends on what level of certainty you want. Most scientists believe in man made climate change, to some extent. So it is prudent to take action to reduce our footprint.  Reducing our footprint can make us happier and healthier, instead of becomming bloaters that rarely exercise and consume too much.  You're conflating too different issues here, personal movement/consumption is not really the issue re:national levels of emissions. That's more about the economy and industry. The % of CO2 that comes from personal transport for example is something like 5. So if we all gave up cars tomorrow, we would still be a long way from meeting CO2 reduction commitments that the government has made! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
WeX   10 #3500 Posted December 13, 2013 Global warming http://i.imgur.com/yMqg2gl.jpg  First snow in Cairo, Egypt in 112 years.  I bet they are still better at driving in it than we are in the UK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #3501 Posted December 14, 2013 Global warming http://i.imgur.com/yMqg2gl.jpg First snow in Cairo, Egypt in 112 years. And Syria. Like they don't have enough problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
convert   10 #3502 Posted December 27, 2013 Oh dear, climate change professor Chris Turney, gets his research vessel stuck in the ice, whilst investigating global warming, in the Antarctic summer..   http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/12/26/so-much-ice-in-antarctica-that-a-research-vessel-gets-stuck-in-summer/  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #3503 Posted December 27, 2013 Oh dear, climate change professor Chris Turney, gets his research vessel stuck in the ice, whilst investigating global warming, in the Antarctic summer..  http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/12/26/so-much-ice-in-antarctica-that-a-research-vessel-gets-stuck-in-summer/   It's that global warmin innit,  http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/12/prweb11446462.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #3504 Posted December 29, 2013 Oh dear, climate change professor Chris Turney, gets his research vessel stuck in the ice, whilst investigating global warming, in the Antarctic summer.  It's that global warmin innit Maybe he needs to consult his Atturney. Did he not notice that, despite his beliefs and it being 'summer' there, the Antarctic is bloomin' cold? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...