George Osbourne Planning Tax credit cuts: Fair?

[exxon 10]

And how many finance bills did the Lord block when Labour were in power?

And without knowing the figures the Tories probably had a majority in the Lords.

And if they had I would also have been against that.

They are unelected you know. Failed politicians, I still can't believe Lord two bogs, cronies and a load of blokes in fancy dress who's only qualification is that they believe we are all descended from Adam and Eve, unbelievable.

 

You forgot Blunkett

[gomgeg 10]

You forgot Blunkett

 

The true socialist Lord Blunkett, lives at Chatsworth now doesn't he?

Connecting with the working classes.

[I1L2T3 10]

The true socialist Lord Blunkett, lives at Chatsworth now doesn't he?

Connecting with the working classes.

 

Aren't you conveniently forgetting about a tradition going back hundreds of years where the second chamber was dominated by Tory-supporting male hereditary peers who had of course done nothing of merit to get there? Peerages that could not be inherited by female children of the peers either.

 

At least Blunkett has served in government. I don't like the guy much but he does have experience of helping run the country.

 

I'm not sure Tory supporters really understand what they are arguing for right now. They seem confused.

[gomgeg 10]

Aren't you conveniently forgetting about a tradition going back hundreds of years where the second chamber was dominated by Tory-supporting male hereditary peers who had of course done nothing of merit to get there? Peerages that could not be inherited by female children of the peers either.

 

At least Blunkett has served in government. I don't like the guy much but he does have experience of helping run the country.

 

I'm not sure Tory supporters really understand what they are arguing for right now. They seem confused.

Can't argue with the first bit. I don't think any of them should be there, I believe in elected government.

I'm having a go at such as David Blunkett and co because the Lords is against everything they believe in.

By the way I'm not a Tory supporter I voted UKIP.

[psynuk 10]

A company isn't a person.

 

 

That's entirely wrong.

A company can be a person.

Your using 'human' and 'person' interchangeably but they're distinctly different things.

I know what you mean but by not being correct on the terms and their differences it prolongs the 'agony'

[999tigger 10]

That's entirely wrong.

A company can be a person.

Your using 'human' and 'person' interchangeably but they're distinctly different things.

I know what you mean but by not being correct on the terms and their differences it prolongs the 'agony'

 

Ive pointed it out to him but he just replies with something infantile. Its a consistent pattern that other people have pointed out.

[mort 10]

The bickering and personal attacks cease now or all participants will find their accounts suspended.

[staninoodle 175]

Ive seen that list of the lords who voted in favour,didnt Karen Brady once say "all single mums were a buisness" so how can she vote for lowering their income?

Its disgracefull that all these multi millionaires can vote to put families into hardship when a 1% increase in their tax bill would enable the less well off to have a better quality of life.

Lets not forget its the CHILDREN that suffer in these families.

Disgracefull!

[whiteowl 54]

I'm glad the HoL rejected this, it's what they are there for. For the people complaining about "democracy" then the Government can use the Parliament act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliament_Acts_1911_and_1949 (sorry, people link it better than me) to force it through if they want.

 

Checks and balances, that's what they are there for. They've said have another look at this and if you're 100% sure, force it through. Otherwise, turn it into something better.

[Penistone999 10]

Ive no doubt it will be forced through ,and rightly so . The HOL are unelected ,and therefore should NOT be allowed to reject legislation .

 

Id like to see the HOL abolished. They are just another drain on taxpayers money.

[unbeliever 10]

Ive no doubt it will be forced through ,and rightly so . The HOL are unelected ,and therefore should NOT be allowed to reject legislation .

 

Id like to see the HOL abolished. They are just another drain on taxpayers money.

 

Me too.

Although I'm uncomfortable with a purely unicameral system.

We have no president and an apolitical monarch.

Somebody should get in the way if parliament does something truly mad.

[I1L2T3 10]

Ive no doubt it will be forced through ,and rightly so . The HOL are unelected ,and therefore should NOT be allowed to reject legislation .

 

Id like to see the HOL abolished. They are just another drain on taxpayers money.

 

We need a senior house but just not with nearly a thousand members.

 

500 members maximum.