Marx   10 #85 Posted October 9, 2015 The comments section is worth a look.  Indeed it is. I can't wait until Lizzie is retired and this clueless idiot takes over. What other job does one spend one's entire life waiting to do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
harvey19   541 #86 Posted October 9, 2015 Indeed it is. I can't wait until Lizzie is retired and this clueless idiot takes over. What other job does one spend one's entire life waiting to do? Take over a family business, much the same as royalty.  ---------- Post added 09-10-2015 at 11:47 ----------  Totally agree. Absolutely disgusting programme and journalism at its worst. The only dirt they were interested in was on Chris Fay's light switch, which we had to see in all its glory more than once. Mentioned Chris Fay's past conviction but failed to mention the past convictions of those VIPs accused.  ---------- Post added 08-10-2015 at 20:31 ----------   http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/oct/07/bishop-peter-ball-escaped-charges-mps-royal-family-intervened-court  Absolutely shocking. And for the DM lovers:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3263475/Bishop-abused-young-priests-naked-prayers-got-away-two-decades.html  The comments section is worth a look.  I thought it was an excellent well researched programme, but there again I wasn't prejudging anyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jeffrey Shaw   90 #87 Posted October 10, 2015 One way forwards might be to enable defamation actions to be continued- or even started- after death of the claimant. Odd, isn't it, that supposed victims appear only the supposed defendant is dead and therefore cannot sue! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ricgem2002 Â Â 11 #88 Posted October 11, 2015 One way forwards might be to enable defamation actions to be continued- or even started- after death of the claimant. Odd, isn't it, that supposed victims appear only the supposed defendant is dead and therefore cannot sue! can we have this in laymans terms Jeffrey (you been on the drink when you wrote this ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Hesther   10 #89 Posted October 12, 2015 posted in error. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Anna B Â Â 1,414 #90 Posted October 12, 2015 Now, it seems, it's the turn of Tom Watson to have his career ruined, for speaking out for the victims of child abuse. Just like Geoffrey Dickens before him. You take on the full force of the Establishment at your peril... Â It really is time one of these cases was tested in a court of law, rather than in the gutter press. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
drummonds   10 #91 Posted October 12, 2015 Now, it seems, it's the turn of Tom Watson to have his career ruined, for speaking out for the victims of child abuse. Just like Geoffrey Dickens before him. You take on the full force of the Establishment at your peril...  It really is time one of these cases was tested in a court of law, rather than in the gutter press.  well there you have it. which particular person are you attempting to stick up for here? is it the folk who tom watson attempted to ruin by wrongly putting their names across the press or tom watson who now has his name across the press for doing it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
harvey19 Â Â 541 #92 Posted October 12, 2015 Now, it seems, it's the turn of Tom Watson to have his career ruined, for speaking out for the victims of child abuse. Just like Geoffrey Dickens before him. You take on the full force of the Establishment at your peril... Â It really is time one of these cases was tested in a court of law, rather than in the gutter press. Â It appears that there was no evidence to substantiate any claims made therefore there can be no court case. People should not be named until charges are brought. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
redfox   10 #93 Posted October 12, 2015 He tried to use the storm of allegations being made as a vehicle for his own personal improvement - he wasn't as brave nor as fast off the mark as Simon Danczuk.  His other problem was that he made allegations without substance - which hardly helps those who have been the victims of abuse does it.  He said "he should not have repeated a claim that Lord Brittan was "close to evil" and said he was sorry for causing distress to the Brittan family.  Without substance he just makes things worse for the real victims.  One of the problems with this swirl of accusation is that something called evidence has been forgotten and the police reliance on a witness who said X had done various things to him "as a joke" makes matters ten times worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sgtkate   10 #94 Posted October 12, 2015 well there you have it. which particular person are you attempting to stick up for here? is it the folk who tom watson attempted to ruin by wrongly putting their names across the press or tom watson who now has his name across the press for doing it?  Are you for real? Tom Watson was given evidence of Lord Britton having abused children. He passed this onto the police. Now he is being hung out to dry for it. Are you saying he should have suppressed possible evidence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
drummonds   10 #95 Posted October 12, 2015 Are you for real? Tom Watson was given evidence of Lord Britton having abused children. He passed this onto the police. Now he is being hung out to dry for it. Are you saying he should have suppressed possible evidence?  what evidence was that? the word that you are looking for is false rumour. perhaps you need to check your facts. the police were not given any information by tom watson. he merely used his position to put on pressure to reopen a closed investigation in order to put names in the public eye.  still the good news is that tom watson was positioning himself to take over the labour party once they kicked out corbyn. they will need to find some other low life now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sgtkate   10 #96 Posted October 12, 2015 what evidence was that? the word that you are looking for is false rumour. perhaps you need to check your facts. the police were not given any information by tom watson. he merely used his position to put on pressure to reopen a closed investigation in order to put names in the public eye.  still the good news is that tom watson was positioning himself to take over the labour party once they kicked out corbyn. they will need to find some other low life now.  Perhaps you need to go and do your research too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...