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This is just stupid, operators of licenced premises have a specific duty in the terms of their licence to manage their businesses in a safe and trouble free manner. if you have ever been in a pub that gets visited by "travellers" ( which aren't an ethnic or racial group anyway) you would very soon understand why barring them outright immediately is a good idea.

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So fans wearing their teams colours can't be banned?As not al of them cause trouble .

Edited by ukdobby

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Ridiculous decision.

 

Entirely correct decision.

 

In the judgement, Judge Hand QC said the thinking of the then manager of the pub was "suffused with the stereotypical assumption that Irish Travellers and English Gypsies cause disorder wherever they go".

The judge added: "In my judgment this is racial stereotyping of those with that ethnic origin.

"It can be reduced to this crude proposition: whenever Irish Travellers and English Gypsies go to public houses, violent disorder is inevitable because that is how they behave".

 

He could almost be talking about you.

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Entirely correct decision.

 

In the judgement, Judge Hand QC said the thinking of the then manager of the pub was "suffused with the stereotypical assumption that Irish Travellers and English Gypsies cause disorder wherever they go".

The judge added: "In my judgment this is racial stereotyping of those with that ethnic origin.

"It can be reduced to this crude proposition: whenever Irish Travellers and English Gypsies go to public houses, violent disorder is inevitable because that is how they behave".

 

He could almost be talking about you.

 

Says someone who thinks the Roma are fine upstanding members of our community.

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This is just stupid, operators of licenced premises have a specific duty in the terms of their licence to manage their businesses in a safe and trouble free manner. if you have ever been in a pub that gets visited by "travellers" ( which aren't an ethnic or racial group anyway) you would very soon understand why barring them outright immediately is a good idea.

 

A genetics expert from the University of Edinburgh disagrees with your assumption that they are not an ethnic or racial group.

 

Apparently DNA tests have proven that they are in fact different from the 'settled community'.

 

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.irishexaminer.com%2Fireland%2Fhealth%2Fdna-study-travellers-a-distinct-ethnicity-156324.html&ei=iJpbVffLM8Wa7gaQhYLICw&usg=AFQjCNFmg8dXodD-LxrmENl-oc7jhBTRtg&bvm=bv.93756505,d.ZGU&cad=rja

 

That however is not the point here, the landlord made a decision based purely on prejudice and without any of the people he refused to serve having committed any actions to deserve being singled out for the treatment.

 

Did you read the OPs link?

 

In addition to travelers the group who were refused service included a police inspector a barrister and a priest.

 

Asking someone to leave who is causing trouble or refusing someone entry who has done so in the past is perfectly reasonable but deciding not to serve people because you disagree with their lifestyle isn't.

 

Obviously, that does not apply to football supporters who can be discriminated against, herded like cattle and refused entry to pubs or stadiums purely on a whim.

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What happened to "ROAR"?

 

Or those lovely signs that we used to see in pub windows in the 1970s.

 

"No Gyppoes or blacks". That was a catchy phrase.

 

How about reintroducing that one?

 

You really are a nob.

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What happened to "ROAR"?

 

But if Sheffield Forum exercised that right with you no doubt you'd be raging about censorship and the right to free speech.

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Entirely correct decision.

 

In the judgement, Judge Hand QC said the thinking of the then manager of the pub was "suffused with the stereotypical assumption that Irish Travellers and English Gypsies cause disorder wherever they go".

The judge added: "In my judgment this is racial stereotyping of those with that ethnic origin.

"It can be reduced to this crude proposition: whenever Irish Travellers and English Gypsies go to public houses, violent disorder is inevitable because that is how they behave".

 

He could almost be talking about you.

 

£3000 for each of them? Correct decision? :confused:

 

£3000 for being refused entry into a pub, and that is the correct decision?

 

All this talk around election about selfishness/conquer/divide etc. Let me tell you what is dividing people, it's lawyers and claims companies.

 

Tim Martin, chairman of Wetherspoon, said: "Wetherspoon apologises to the eight individuals who were denied entry and for any upset and distress this caused to them.

 

An apology would have been good enough in the past before lawyers got their teeth into this kind of thing.

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A group of around eight came in our local pub a few weeks ago, men, women and children, a girl of around ten years was walking around the pub trying to sell bracelets made out of Loom Bands, by the time they had gone, the mess they left had to be seen to be believed, the kids had had a McDonalds and the containers were just thrown on the floor, crisp packets joined them. After they left it was noticed a large brass casting of a horse and cart which had stood in the same place for fifteen years had gone. The reputation the Gypsys have has not been invented, it's through their actions and way of life. I'm 100% behind the chap that banned them from his pub.

Edited by lazarus

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