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More evidence that the UK doesn't have freedom of religion, so might be time to ban it altogether since believers aren't free to manifest their religion beliefs anyway.

 

Yes, they are, just not as a policy of a public facing company. Perfectly sensible.

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Yes, they are, just not as a policy of a public facing company. Perfectly sensible.

 

So they can't express the religious beliefs, they are forced to do something that they believe to be wrong.

 

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According to Janet Street-Porter the Christian B&B couple took their case to the European court and won.

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So they can't express the religious beliefs, they are forced to do something that they believe to be wrong.

 

---------- Post added 19-05-2015 at 13:34 ----------

 

According to Janet Street-Porter the Christian B&B couple took their case to the European court and won.

 

If they want to be bigots they can be in their free time - March about with placards outside gay nightclubs advising its patrons they will burn in hell etc. I'm sure they'll be free to do that.

 

However their business can't be as backward. Tough luck. If they really objected, couldn't they just screw up the order and do Bob the builder cake or something? It wouldn't be the first time ever someone got an order wrong. But no, they wanted to prove a point - and they have. Religious nutters aren't above the law.

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Because some people are really really thick and believe in things that no normal right minded individual would.

 

Even as late as thirty years since most "normal right minded individual"(s) would have burst out laughing at the concept of gay marriage.

 

So "normality" varies quite a bit.

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So they can't express the religious beliefs,

 

Like anything, your beliefs don't entitle you to do whatever you like. Running a company requires adherance to the laws of the land.

 

they are forced to do something that they believe to be wrong.

 

The law of the land disagree's. The company is not a religious group so they should be able to run it in a way that satisfies their personal belief without discriminating against any customers. It doesn't seem like that would be too difficult.

 

Out of interest, where would you draw the discrimination line? If a religion regarded the disabled as undesireable... for example, would that be OK?

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The massive problem with all this is that people can fabricate reasons for not doing things and there is no legal problem.

But if they give honest reasons they are penalised.

Is this what we want society to become ?

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The massive problem with all this is that people can fabricate reasons for not doing things and there is no legal problem.

But if they give honest reasons they are penalised.

Is this what we want society to become ?

 

So you're saying that people should be rewarded for owning up to being a bigot!

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Like anything, your beliefs don't entitle you to do whatever you like. Running a company requires adherance to the laws of the land.

 

 

 

 

There was an item on this particular episode on the radio earlier.. the presenter asked a representative of the Irish LBGT community what would happen if a lesbian t-shirt printer was asked to do a shirt proclaiming "Homosexuality is an abomination"..would the company fulfill the order? The LBGT rep. suggested that this was entirely different and refused to give a proper answer..

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I thought all businesses where allowed to refuse service to anyone if thy so choose.

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