Oliver Coppard to win sheffield hallam?

[evil woman 10]

Yep they got mugged off. Whats changed so much we want clegg in again?

 

---------- Post added 28-04-2015 at 17:24 ----------

 

He sold out. His ideals are not in question, just betrayed them for a taste of power.

 

In the unlikely event that you actually live in his constituency you will be able to vote for one of the other guys.

 

---------- Post added 28-04-2015 at 17:31 ----------

 

I've got a suggestion, if people wanted to be represented by a Labour candidate they should have voted Labour. It's a hollow complaint that they voted Lib-Dem and then found out that their representative wasn't Labour.

 

To be honest I think you will find there are a lot of Labour supporters from outside Hallam who are actually making the noise.

[Bilge 34]

I've got a suggestion, if people wanted to be represented by a Labour candidate they should have voted Labour. It's a hollow complaint that they voted Lib-Dem and then found out that their representative wasn't Labour.

 

They voted NOT-Tory and ended up with a Tory. That's why they are angry and won't vote for him again. So his vote is back to the core of sandal-wearers - which won't be enough.

[ShefStealth 10]

I've got a suggestion, if people wanted to be represented by a Labour candidate they should have voted Labour. It's a hollow complaint that they voted Lib-Dem and then found out that their representative wasn't Labour.

 

I think a lot of people in the last election decided to vote against Labour because they didn't want to be supporting Gordon Brown. He was a Prime Minister that hadn't been voted in by the public, who had bailed out shareholders instead of letting them take the hit for the Banking crisis, who had auctioned off the UK's gold reserves for a pittance at a time when prices were low, when we could have used those gold reserves at a much better time to make a more major dint to our debts when the recession hit. The whole 'Labour aren't listening to us - we didn't want to go to War in Iraq' thing too. As a nation, we kept Blair in to try and make him answerable to any enquiries about war, and when he stepped aside and let Brown take over then the population decided to let the Labour party know that they were sick of being messed around and not being listened to.

[WiseOwl182 10]

They voted NOT-Tory and ended up with a Tory. That's why they are angry and won't vote for him again. So his vote is back to the core of sandal-wearers - which won't be enough.

 

 

Or did they vote for him because he's not Labour, like I wi be this time? It's irrelevant, democracy works on who most people vote for, there's no collective "against" option. In 2010, nationally, most people voted Tory and Clegg did the right thing respecting that.

[go4it 10]

Ruled out by Clegg - don't vote for him - his heart is with the Tories.

 

This is getting silly now and you have been told time and time again.

 

Clegg has not ruled out a coalition with Labour. He said the Lib Dems would add a brain to the Labour party. The Lib Dems have stated that their terms would be no cuts to the education budget.

 

You have repeatedly been asked to back up your claim that Clegg won't work with Labour. You clearly are against Clegg and many on here suspect you are part of the Coppard team and are pushing this propaganda to people.

 

If you are part of the Coppard team then just be honest, instead of peddling false information to people.

[mattleonard 10]

They voted NOT-Tory and ended up with a Tory. That's why they are angry and won't vote for him again. So his vote is back to the core of sandal-wearers - which won't be enough.

 

No, they voted Lib Dem. If they deluded themselves into believing they were being asked who they didn't want in power then it's their own fault.

[WiseOwl182 10]

Do any of the LibDem posters and signs in people's houses and gardens have Clegg's name on them or do they all scrupulously avoid mentioning him?

 

 

 

It's a bit like how the Coppard signs are ashamed to be Labour and only have the party name in small text hidden in the bottom right corner.

 

---------- Post added 28-04-2015 at 19:48 ----------

 

What they should say is.... Vote Coppard, Get Salmond.

[Helj 10]

For those of you who believe that Labour voters on here don’t live in Sheffield Hallam I suspect one reason is it’s never been worth voting Labour before, it’s been a wasted vote as Labour were so far behind. LibDems got all the anti-Tory votes. This year, because the Conservatives are tacitly supporting the LibDems, Labour is the anti-tory vote AND real Labour voters finally feel that their vote might count. There is actually a candidate and a team who look like they believe they can win.

[Dan_Ashcroft 10]

For those of you who believe that Labour voters on here don’t live in Sheffield Hallam I suspect one reason is it’s never been worth voting Labour before, it’s been a wasted vote as Labour were so far behind. LibDems got all the anti-Tory votes. This year, because the Conservatives are tacitly supporting the LibDems, Labour is the anti-tory vote AND real Labour voters finally feel that their vote might count. There is actually a candidate and a team who look like they believe they can win.

 

Sheffield Hallam is too rich to vote Labour (3rd richest constituency outside of London). Rich people don't vote for tax and spend, they want to be able to control their own money.

 

Hallam is naturally Tory (it was for 100 years). Tories will vote Lib Dem tactically this time to help a Con-Lib coalition over a Labour-SNP one

[Helj 10]

They weren't voting tactically to put Richard Allan and then Nick Clegg in if it is naturally Tory-why didn't they keep voting Conservative as it always had been? Why did it change to LibDem?

[altus 538]

This is getting silly now and you have been told time and time again.

 

Clegg has not ruled out a coalition with Labour. He said the Lib Dems would add a brain to the Labour party. The Lib Dems have stated that their terms would be no cuts to the education budget.

 

You have repeatedly been asked to back up your claim that Clegg won't work with Labour. You clearly are against Clegg and many on here suspect you are part of the Coppard team and are pushing this propaganda to people.

 

If you are part of the Coppard team then just be honest, instead of peddling false information to people.

 

I'm puzzled as to why she keeps insisting on posting this obvious falsehood. All it will do is make people doubt the veracity of everything else she claims.

 

---------- Post added 28-04-2015 at 21:04 ----------

 

They voted NOT-Tory and ended up with a Tory. That's why they are angry and won't vote for him again. So his vote is back to the core of sandal-wearers - which won't be enough.

 

The voted for someone who repeatedly said he'd go into coalition with the party that get the most votes. That they chose to ignore this and were then surprised when he did that very thing is not Clegg's fault. They should really be honest enough to admit it was their own fault they voted that way - they were only misled by themselves.

[WiseOwl182 10]

Now we are saying coppards a liar before he even gets a chance?

I say its time for a change in sh. Lets see what the boy does.

 

He's stretching the truth.

 

The average median salary in Hallam has risen by around 9% between 2010 and 2015.

 

In addition to that, the increase in personal allowance has delivered a tax cut equivalent to around 3.2% of said average salary. That's just over 12% increase in total.

 

This is offset by cumulative CPI over the 5 year period of around 19%.

 

So what Coppard really means with "the people of Hallam have had a 20% paycut since 2010" is that "the average person in Hallam has only seen a 12% take home pay rise since 2010 in the face of 19% CPI". But the truth doesn't have the same ring to it.

 

Also, as has been pointed out, CPI is a broad brush application of an inflation model, but inflation is actually very individual for most things. For example, it won't matter to a lot of people if train fares have CPI of 19% when they only drive a car that has petrol inflation around -10%.