go4it 10 #85 Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) so is teaching not a proper job? He was not paid for it. Many people go into the community to teach people. Many people do this for free. It is not their job. ---------- Post added 21-04-2015 at 23:33 ---------- Did he lecture at Harvard? I thought that you Tories were all big on ordinary people working for nothing. Great that he went to get some work experience. It enabled him to mix with John Kerry's inner circles. Volunteering is great, but is something which is frowned upon under Labour. Why go and help a local youth club for free when you can use public money to employ a youth club facilitator on £16000 per year? Edited April 21, 2015 by go4it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon #86 Posted April 21, 2015 Great that he went to get some work experience. It enabled him to mix with John Kerry's inner circles. Volunteering is great, but is something which is frowned upon under Labour. Why go and help a local youth club for free when you can use public money to employ a youth club facilitator on £16000 per year? You seem a little confused. Not for the first time. Are you in favour of voluntary work, or is it something that you deride? Do clarify your opinions. We are all hanging on your every word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Narden Dee 10 #87 Posted April 21, 2015 He was not paid for it. Many people go into the community to teach people. Many people do this for free. It is not their job. ---------- Post added 21-04-2015 at 23:33 ---------- Great that he went to get some work experience. It enabled him to mix with John Kerry's inner circles. Volunteering is great, but is something which is frowned upon under Labour. Why go and help a local youth club for free when you can use public money to employ a youth club facilitator on £16000 per year? I would hardly call teaching at Harvard as working in the community. And you've yet to mention the job of researcher is that not a proper job as well? Don't bother answering you've made yourself look silly enough with your previous posts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
the_bloke 17 #88 Posted April 21, 2015 I see Oliver Coppard is 6/4 to win sheffield Hallam at the GE and oust Nick Clegg...looks a good bet to me. You can see the logic behind Labour putting him forward; he's a weak candidate but has links to the area, so might as well have him instead of an outsider. If he doesn't win, then you'll hear the lines about him being 'a force to be reckoned with in the future', if he pulls it off and does win then Hallam will have a backbench MP that won't achieve anything after the first few months of notoriety and be voted out next time around. I'm not especially a fan of either, but I see Clegg winning this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
E-Man Groovin 27 #89 Posted April 22, 2015 Blah, blah Are you arguing just for the sake of it? Put simply, a vote of confidence is still possible under the terms of the new act. Parliament can be dissolved. These are the circumstances in which the next government will not last for five years. More likely in a minority government. Read the whole of this article if you still don't believe me: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/nov/05/coalition-minority-government-or-oblivion-may-2015-general-election OK? Now behave. You're old enough to know better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eater Sundae 12 #90 Posted April 22, 2015 What do you perceive as proper job ? Miliband was a Researcher and taught at Harvard is a teacher not a proper job ? Osbournes family business has lost £9m since 2009 so doing as well in business as he's done with the national debt So when he says "we're all in this together", he is in fact telling the truth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Flanker7 20 #91 Posted April 22, 2015 Do people ever read the stuff they give links too ? This is the opening paragraph to E-M-Groovin's link above:- "The Fixed-term Parliaments Act became law in September 2011. For the first time in Britain’s history, the date of the next general election became universal knowledge. Barring either the House of Commons passing a no-confidence vote in the government (and given the coalition’s majority, this would require the government in effect to admit: “You know what? We have been a bit rubbish”) or for two-thirds of all MPs to demand an early election (about as likely as them asking for their expenses to be re-audited, just in case they had over-claimed) then the next election will be held on 7 May 2015." (my bold) If anyone has been reading our exchanges, I don't blame you if you haven't, the above chimes with my earlier comments. End of disscussion . . . . from me at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mr Bloom 10 #92 Posted April 22, 2015 So when he says "we're all in this together", he is in fact telling the truth Depends where you're starting from, doesn't it? I doubt his folks are queueing up at the foodbanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
stressconsul 10 #93 Posted April 22, 2015 I think the biggest problem with the austerity we're going through is that it's not aiming at getting people off benefit and supporting them back into work, or higher paid jobs. A lot of benefit is being paid to people WITH jobs, maybe even two jobs but on minimum wage or 'flexible hours' agreements. This austerity is designed and aimed at kicking people out of the reach of benefit. Bedroom Tax (call it what you will), caps etc. In the same period as this austerity, Sure Start centres have closed, use of and number of food banks have rocketed and yet a graph on a site you found to back you the 'good' they are doing shows they've rained in the budget. This simply isn't true. More people are worse off and the state is turning it's back on them. Look at JK Rowling. Without state aide she would never have been able to turn into a higher rate paying resident of the UK. An extreme example I know (feel free to name some benefit cheats etc) but still to the point. The issue isn't fixed, its simple hidden it by food banks picking up the hungry rather than supporting people into work. Quite right. Working people are paying their taxes to prop up bad high-rent landlords and rogue employers who refuse to pay a living wage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Akrasia 10 #94 Posted April 23, 2015 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_%26_Little It is the Osborne family business. Whilst George himself may not have been on the front end, he's had shares and knows what it takes to run a business. That's why he is a good chancellor. All he'd learn from Osborne & Little is how to run a business into the ground. See http://www.theguardian.com/politics/shortcuts/2014/jan/06/osborne-little-george-family-wallpaper-firm. The company has been making losses since 2009, while the owners have taken millions out in wages and used the company to donate thousands to the Conservative Party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
leeaaron 10 #95 Posted April 23, 2015 My missus thinks Coppard is a bit of alright too.. not that that's strictly relevant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
JPCarrington 10 #96 Posted April 23, 2015 My missus thinks Coppard is a bit of alright too.. not that that's strictly relevant Myself and partner played that 'most attractive candidate' game, Coppard was definitely top of his group of six when he came up http://www.general-erection.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...