Harleyman   12 #373 Posted October 6, 2015 thats just a shocking attitude tbh, we're not talking about people in warzones or on dangerous trips to try and better themselves we are on about kids, in supposedly one of the most civilised countries in the world, kids in their OWN houses and schools. in susposed peaceful times being gunned down, and all you can do is bah hoo sucks Oo  That's the trouble with some of the English. They see a country that shares a common language and then think it must be similar to Australia or New Zealand well it's not. Its a big mix of cultures, customs and ethnics and the Anglo-Saxon nature of self restraint, respect and obedience to authority isn't always in evidence.  Many Americans see government and authority as a bit of an enemy and to be somewhat suspicious of.. Obviously very few on here get it  Australians to a little lesser extent are the same. I saw a movie once with a story of Gallipoli and the Aussies who took part in that battle. Two British officers were disgusted at what they saw as the lack of discipline among the Aussie O.Rs  "I really cannot understand these colonials" one said to the other "they are undisciplined, sloppily dressed and only salute the officers they like" :hihi: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Happ Hazzard   10 #374 Posted October 6, 2015 Anyone who maintains that gun control can't happen is a spineless scardey cat. If they can abolish slavery they can abolish ownership of man toys. They had to have a civil war before they abolished slavery. And slaves were generally in favour of slavery being ended. Guns don't care one way or the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
taxman   12 #375 Posted October 6, 2015 Its a big mix of cultures, customs and ethnics and the Anglo-Saxon nature of self restraint, respect and obedience to authority isn't always in evidence.     So it's the fault of the blacks and those hot blooded latinos when white guys shoot up a cinema full of people or bomb a local govt office     In fact that is so funny I might quote you as my new signature Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Harleyman   12 #376 Posted October 6, 2015 (edited)  So it's the fault of the blacks and those hot blooded latinos when white guys shoot up a cinema full of people or bomb a local govt office     In fact that is so funny I might quote you as my new signature  What are you rattling on about? I thought all the smoke and soot was gone in Sheffield so what's fogging up your brain box ? I made no mention that whites never carried out shootings. My meaning was that while English people are generally submissive to authority Americans are in many cases not Edited October 6, 2015 by Harleyman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Happ Hazzard   10 #377 Posted October 6, 2015 Can someone in favour of banning guns in the US explain how they see it playing out in their minds? Something like government bans guns, everyone hands in their guns to be destroyed, no-one smuggling guns into the country afterwards to sell? So no shootings after the ban day, ever. Surely even the most naive person coudln't think that. So once you establish that it's just a matter of how much resistance, not if there would be any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Harleyman   12 #378 Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Can someone in favour of banning guns in the US explain how they see it playing out in their minds? Something like government bans guns, everyone hands in their guns to be destroyed, no-one smuggling guns into the country afterwards to sell? So no shootings after the ban day, ever. Surely even the most naive person coudln't think that. So once you establish that it's just a matter of how much resistance, not if there would be any.  Hundreds of thousands of masked Gendarmerie wearing bullet proof black uniforms and helmets descend on neighbourhoods all over the country in unmarked black choppers and split up into teams. One carries a sledgehammer the rest are armed with military assault weapons. If doors are not opened immediately the sledge hammer is used, Houses are ransacked in search for weapons, large trucks are on hand to take them away.  Meanwhile in Washingto the one eyed President Kim Il Junk dressed as usual in a black tunic and trousers, clutching all white pet Persian cat and surrounded by fifty of his karate trained bodyguards tells the nation that "gun crime as we know it is finally over"  Leaders of the NRA are lined up and publically executed on Pennsylvania Avenue in time for the 5 o'clock news, their heads spiked and displayed outside a Walmart Store a block from CIA HQ.  The Rev Art Himmler of the Westboro Church leads the Capitol Hill Peoples Choir in a rendition of Kum-by-Yah Edited October 7, 2015 by Harleyman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eric Arthur   10 #379 Posted October 7, 2015 Hundreds of thousands of masked Gendarmerie wearing bullet proof black uniforms and helmets descend on neighbourhoods all over the country in unmarked black choppers and split up into teams. One carries a sledgehammer the rest are armed with military assault weapons. If doors are not opened immediately the sledge hammer is used, Houses are ransacked in search for weapons, large trucks are on hand to take them away. Meanwhile in Washingto the one eyed President Kim Il Junk dressed as usual in a black tunic and trousers, clutching all white pet Persian cat and surrounded by fifty of his karate trained bodyguards tells the nation that "gun crime as we know it is finally over"  Leaders of the NRA are lined up and publically executed on Pennsylvania Avenue in time for the 5 o'clock news, their heads spiked and displayed outside a Walmart Store a block from CIA HQ.  The Rev Art Himmler of the Westboro Church leads the Capitol Hill Peoples Choir in a rendition of Kum-by-Yah   Alternatively, just hand them in or get them licensed at the local police station.   Your life isn't the latest edition of Die Hard. The NRA leader idea is interesting though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Halibut   12 #380 Posted October 7, 2015 Can someone in favour of banning guns in the US explain how they see it playing out in their minds? Something like government bans guns, everyone hands in their guns to be destroyed, no-one smuggling guns into the country afterwards to sell? So no shootings after the ban day, ever. Surely even the most naive person coudln't think that. So once you establish that it's just a matter of how much resistance, not if there would be any.  No one has suggested that the US ban guns. The suggestion is that their sale and use be better regulated. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
harvey19 Â Â 541 #381 Posted October 7, 2015 No one has suggested that the US ban guns. The suggestion is that their sale and use be better regulated. Â What changes to existing regulations would you recommend ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eric Arthur   10 #382 Posted October 7, 2015 This is like spoonfeeding a mardy toddler.  Start here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_Kingdom#Gun_licensing_and_legislation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
psynuk   10 #383 Posted October 7, 2015 I'm not sure that it would be illegal to buy one in the UK either. I'm unsure if it would fall under the Firearms act in the UK....  according to this  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34131334  they're dangerous weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Obelix   11 #384 Posted October 7, 2015 Those turkeys, and deer and puma and bears they like to shoot sure must put up some mighty defence.  I'd want something with a bit more stopping power than an assault rifle if I was going up against a bear myself....  ---------- Post added 07-10-2015 at 10:23 ----------  according to this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34131334  they're dangerous weapons.  It doesn't give a citation.  My bushcraft knife is a dangerous weapon but I can legally carry that in public without problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...