Guest sibon   #13 Posted April 17, 2015  Things are much better, think back to 2010, think whats been achieved since in only 5 years. .  Roughly speaking, what has been achieved since 2010, is that unemployment has gone up and then come down again. So, not much really.  Shall we talk about wage growth? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Titanic99   10 #14 Posted April 17, 2015 Unemployment hits a 7 year low as Tories announce 2 million new jobs created since 2010. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32348353  UK unemployment has fallen to its lowest rate since July 2008, official figures have shown.  The number of jobless people dropped by 76,000 to 1.84 million in the three months to February, the Office for National Statistics said on Friday.  That means the unemployment rate has fallen to 5.6%, in line with forecasts.  Average weekly earnings in the three months to February, excluding bonuses, rose by 1.8% compared with the same period a year earlier.  I also note the IMF has praised the handling of the UK economy as it continues to out perform the rest of the EU.  Interesting graph there that shows that whilst Labour was in power the figure is lower in about 10 out of the twelve years.  So if this is good, it must have been brilliant under Labour!  ---------- Post added 17-04-2015 at 17:27 ----------  Im sorry but you are wrong. You are only taken off your benefits if you work more than 16 hours a week, but don't let the facts get in the way of a ignorant rant. ---------- Post added 17-04-2015 at 16:23 ----------   Don't get sucked into poppet2's lack of knowledge.  Have a read: https://www.gov.uk/jobseekers-allowance/eligibility  3. Eligibility To get Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) you must:  be 18 or over but below State Pension age - there are some exceptions if you’re 16 or 17 not be in full-time education be in England, Scotland or Wales be available for work be actively seeking work work on average less than 16 hours per week  Not technically correct but nearly.  There are many in-work Benefits you can claim when working over 16 hours which neatly explains why even with these new 2 million jobs the Welfare Bill has gone up by around 26 Billion during the coalitions time in office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
-Boomer-   10 #15 Posted April 17, 2015 Roughly speaking, what has been achieved since 2010, is that unemployment has gone up and then come down again. So, not much really. Shall we talk about wage growth?  Indeed http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/two-thirds-of-economists-say-coalition-austerity-harmed-the-economy-10149410.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Titanic99   10 #16 Posted April 17, 2015 "The poor are always with us" as the philosopher said. Things are much better, think back to 2010, think whats been achieved since in only 5 years.  Dont lets exchange lists, its better, period. And if the country keeps its nerve, votes Cameron back in, those who you are so concerned about can prosper, but only if we have an economy strong enough to afford to do so.  Hmmm back in 2010 we collected more in Income and Capital tax and spent less on welfare.  I'd hate to see it when things get worse lol! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
poppet2   13 #17 Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Im sorry but you are wrong. You are only taken off your benefits if you work more than 16 hours a week, but don't let the facts get in the way of a ignorant rant. ---------- Post added 17-04-2015 at 16:23 ----------   Don't get sucked into poppet2's lack of knowledge.  Have a read: https://www.gov.uk/jobseekers-allowance/eligibility  3. Eligibility To get Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) you must:  be 18 or over but below State Pension age - there are some exceptions if you’re 16 or 17 not be in full-time education be in England, Scotland or Wales be available for work be actively seeking work work on average less than 16 hours per week   You obviously no nothing about the system otherwise you wouldn't have had to look up these details. If you are offered an interview, and given the job but refuse it, you are taken off benefits for refusing. Exceptions will be distance, otherwise tough, you sign a contract to accept a job if offered, regardless of hours or salary.  ---------- Post added 17-04-2015 at 17:31 ----------  Proof please.  Read the above, from personal experience and knowledge of many who have experienced the same thing. How else do you think the unemployment figures have come down? Edited April 17, 2015 by poppet2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Harvest   10 #18 Posted April 17, 2015 Interesting graph there that shows that whilst Labour was in power the figure is lower in about 10 out of the twelve years. So if this is good, it must have been brilliant under Labour!  Ironically that would be a bit like the Titanic then. Did very well for 3/4 of the journey from Southampton to New York but then sank with huge loss of life and virtually bankrupted White Star Line in the process. So the verdict for Labour between 1997 and 2010 is they increased unemployment over their term and wrecked the economy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
F. Sidebottom   10 #19 Posted April 17, 2015 You obviously no nothing about the system otherwise you wouldn't have had to look up these details. If you are offered an interview, and given the job but refuse it, you are taken off benefits for refusing. Exceptions will be distance, otherwise tough, you sign a contract to accept a job if offered, regardless of hours or salary.  ---------- Post added 17-04-2015 at 17:31 ----------   Read the above, from personal experience and knowledge of many who have experienced the same thing. How else do you think the unemployment figures have come down?  I want proof that these jobs are all 'two hours a week zero hour contracts' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Harvest   10 #20 Posted April 17, 2015  Read the above, from personal experience and knowledge of many who have experienced the same thing. How else do you think the unemployment figures have come down?  Its pretty difficult to square your comment as there are 2 million more people working in the UK than in 2010, and the number on zero hours contract has only increased by around 150,000. So basic maths will tell you that there are 1,850,000 more people working who are not on zero hours contracts than there were in 2010 regardless of how that gets right up your nose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
poppet2 Â Â 13 #21 Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) I want proof that these jobs are all 'two hours a week zero hour contracts' Â Where exactly did I say that they were ALL two hour contracts? Edited April 17, 2015 by poppet2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mossdog   10 #22 Posted April 17, 2015 "The poor are always with us" as the philosopher said. Things are much better, think back to 2010, think whats been achieved since in only 5 years.  Dont lets exchange lists, its better, period. And if the country keeps its nerve, votes Cameron back in, those who you are so concerned about can prosper, but only if we have an economy strong enough to afford to do so. .......""The poor are always with us" as the philosopher said". What do you think was behind this statement by Jesus Alan? ........by the way, loved some of your Western movies! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mr Bloom   10 #23 Posted April 17, 2015 The backdrop to this is many people having to work on reduced wages and/or hours. There may be less jobless, but there are less jobs that pay a decent wage with decent hours and conditions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Grandad.Malky   11 #24 Posted April 17, 2015 Interesting graph there that shows that whilst Labour was in power the figure is lower in about 10 out of the twelve years. So if this is good, it must have been brilliant under Labour!  ---------- Post added 17-04-2015 at 17:27 ----------   Not technically correct but nearly.  There are many in-work Benefits you can claim when working over 16 hours which neatly explains why even with these new 2 million jobs the Welfare Bill has gone up by around 26 Billion during the coalitions time in office. At last someone that can see past the eye-catching unemployment figures . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...