PeteMorris   10 #37 Posted April 14, 2015 I don't see the statistical evidence of this being a national issue. On a whole we don not build enough houses, that is the only verdict from your link. But as this proposal is to boost house building by 400,000 homes by 2020 in addition to the average of 150,000 homes currently being built. This would put the number of houses built for the period to 100,000 less than the required for the period or there is a shortfall of 20,000 homes to be built per year. That is a heck of a lot better then under Labour.  I didn't say it was statistics....Just a little light reading...merely to illustrate problems 'nationally' with housing...or rather lack of them.  You're doing exactly the same as Cameron in all of his speeches of late....Blaming history....What have the conservatives done for housing (specifically council housing) in the last 5 years?....Apart from the bedroom tax...and impose savage cuts on all the councils?.....Now all of a sudden cos he wants to get elected again, he's Mr Friendly!  If he told me today was Tuesday, I'd have to check the calendar.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mr Bloom   10 #38 Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Blame the local councils then for wasting the money.  Your claim of it being the councils fault for wasting money in relation to the point being made has no basis in reality, as you have already been made aware, Thatcher insisted that the profit was not to be ploughed back in to housing stock.  It was one of Thatcher's most evil, socially divisive policies, and to expand it to organisations where people have invested many hours and resources in good faith, that they are providing affordable homes available to those in need is putting two fingers up at the so-called 'big society'. Edited April 14, 2015 by Mr Bloom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Berberis   10 #39 Posted April 14, 2015 It was one of Thatcher's most evil, socially divisive policies, and to expand it to organisations where people have invested many hours and resources in good faith, that they are providing affordable homes available to those in need is putting two fingers up at the so-called 'big society'.  Calling it evil is total hogwash. Enabling people to own their own home at a massive discount, boosting their socioeconomic status is not evil unless you are yearn for the socialist Shangri-La where everything is provided for you by the state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SteveJ68 Â Â 10 #40 Posted April 14, 2015 Calling it evil is total hogwash. Enabling people to own their own home at a massive discount, boosting their socioeconomic status is not evil unless you are yearn for the socialist Shangri-La where everything is provided for you by the state. Â It's like being back in the 80's reading such dogmatic nonsense. It's all going wrong for the Tories when articles like this appear in the Telegraph. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/conservative/11535234/Extending-the-right-to-buy-is-economically-illiterate-and-morally-wrong.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
poppet2 Â Â 13 #41 Posted April 14, 2015 Calling it evil is total hogwash. Enabling people to own their own home at a massive discount, boosting their socioeconomic status is not evil unless you are yearn for the socialist Shangri-La where everything is provided for you by the state. Â Why should anyone be allowed to purchase subsidised state housing? If people want a house, do what everyone else does, buy your own. Â ---------- Post added 14-04-2015 at 18:06 ---------- Â Yes, thus ensuring rapid decreases in social housing stock and therefore pushing up house prices and rents, so private landlords will be laughing all the way to the bank. Â So true. I feel so sorry for the next generation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M   1,625 #42 Posted April 14, 2015 Why should anyone be allowed to purchase subsidised state housing? If people want a house, do what everyone else does, buy your own. ---------- Post added 14-04-2015 at 18:06 ----------   So true. I feel so sorry for the next generation.  Speaking of generations, Charles Gow the son of the Housing Minister under which 'right to buy' was introduced has gobbled up 40 ex council properties and is now a 'buy to let' landlord. https://tompride.wordpress.com/2015/04/14/son-of-thatchers-right-to-buy-housing-minister-now-owns-40-ex-council-homes/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
-Boomer- Â Â 10 #43 Posted April 14, 2015 There isn't enough social housing as it is and selling off more isn't going to help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,625 #44 Posted April 14, 2015 I live in social housing, and have no intention of buying the property I'm living in. I think there is alarm in political circles that home ownership is declining, hence the unveiling of this election pledge. I think there is a crisis in housing, but this isn't the answer.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
poppet2 Â Â 13 #45 Posted April 14, 2015 Why should ANY council or housing Association build more houses with the money they receive from the buy-offs, when future new build stock will be sold off to tenants after 3 years? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,625 #46 Posted April 14, 2015 Does anyone know how this will work? I presume housing associations will only receive a fraction from the sale of the houses that it costs to build Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
evil woman   10 #47 Posted April 14, 2015 (edited) Funded how?.....Oh that's right...selling off even more of the 'better' council homes....Will they also have to be replaced one for one?  I'm thinking that council houses in some areas could free up enough money to build whole new council estates.  http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/28/london-council-house-3m-auction-borough  London council house raises £3m at auction - enough for 20 more homes Edited April 14, 2015 by evil woman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3   10 #48 Posted April 14, 2015 there's nothing wrong with selling these houses as long as the money is ploughed back into building more houses. The discount needs looking at. Maybe there is other help you could give the home buyer rather than a discount. Or maybe make the time in residence longer before you qualify.  I would add that the money needs to be ploughed into building houses in the right places. A lot of the HA stock is in out of the way places that are disconnected economically. If people want to buy their houses in those locations then fine but what mustn't replace the sold-off stock is large estates on the edge of town away from decent transport links and amenities. Crucially also the new stock should be near to areas with massive housing shortages with very high rents and prices.  If we're honest the current stock isn't great generally. If the sell-off is coupled with an imaginative well-funded strategic renewal that brings economic benefits for the occupants of new builds, and also benefits the wider economy then great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...