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Katie Hopkins says people who use food banks are the new 'fat cats'. What's everyone's opinion on that?

 

I suspect she'd rather see them skeletal. At least then she could accuse them of being too lazy too cook themselves a meal.

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"The idle become voucher tourists, moving around to score free nappies and deodorants they can flog for fags and booze."

I get the feeling Katie Hopkins' views are echoed by a lot of people on here and in Sheffield in general...

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So you recognise/acknowledge that in order to stop their children from going to bed hungry, some families in this country have to rely on foodbanks - the charity of others - on a massively organised scale. Is this acceptable to you in our country?

 

Re bib. What do you think welfare payments are but "charity... ...on a massively organised scale"? "Others", ie society as a whole, decide that those in need get help. Ultimately, does it matter where that help comes from?

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And as for those in poverty, well I live on an estate surrounded by it. And I often see people who are on benefits or low incomes jump in a taxi to pop round to the corner shop for some fags and to top up the electric. Using a taxi when they could walk hardly suggests real poverty.

 

Likewise, off-the-cuff, anecdotal generalisations suggest that you don't know what real poverty is either.

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Likewise, off-the-cuff, anecdotal generalisations suggest that you don't know what real poverty is either.

 

No one in the UK knows what real poverty is, apart from possibly those sleeping under bridges each night.

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No one in the UK knows what real poverty is, apart from possibly those sleeping under bridges each night.

 

True. ..........

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Likewise, off-the-cuff, anecdotal generalisations suggest that you don't know what real poverty is either.

 

That was not a generalisation. It was a personal observation. The two are very different. If the OP is telling the truth, they are observing an issue with the labelling of some people.

 

It seems poverty is relative in the UK and identified by factors that would, in another country less wealthy, be seen as being well off. The way the government judge child poverty is self fulfilling in my opinion, stating that those living in households who earn an amount placing them in the bottom 25% of the population are in poverty. Well if you use a percentage of a number its never going to go away. We need to identify how much real money people need to be kept out of poverty.

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That was not a generalisation. It was a personal observation. The two are very different. If the OP is telling the truth, they are observing an issue with the labelling of some people..

 

I wasn't quoting the OP

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That was not a generalisation. It was a personal observation. The two are very different. If the OP is telling the truth, they are observing an issue with the labelling of some people.

 

It seems poverty is relative in the UK and identified by factors that would, in another country less wealthy, be seen as being well off. The way the government judge child poverty is self fulfilling in my opinion, stating that those living in households who earn an amount placing them in the bottom 25% of the population are in poverty. Well if you use a percentage of a number its never going to go away. We need to identify how much real money people need to be kept out of poverty.

 

What's real money?

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We need to identify how much real money people need to be kept out of poverty.

 

I'm not so sure. Maybe we should try and identify first why people are in poverty.

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I'm not so sure. Maybe we should try and identify first why people are in poverty.

 

It's an invented concept and a self fulfilling prophecy this "relative poverty" measurement. The only way to "cure" it, is to make the wealthier poorer.

 

It's socialism raising its ugly head again

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