Guest sibon   #13 Posted April 3, 2015 Just to inject a factual content to an interesting debate, here are some stats.  I don't see the contracts themselves as a problem, if they are mutually acceptable. The problem comes when unscrupulous employers use them in an abusive manner.  The charts are interesting though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
loraward   10 #14 Posted April 3, 2015 Just to inject a factual content to an interesting debate, here are some stats. I don't see the contracts themselves as a problem, if they are mutually acceptable. The problem comes when unscrupulous employers use them in an abusive manner.  The charts are interesting though.  They are always mutually acceptable because no one is forced to take one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest sibon   #15 Posted April 3, 2015 They are always mutually acceptable because no one is forced to take one.  We both know that isn't true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
loraward   10 #16 Posted April 3, 2015 We both know that isn't true.  It is true, a job is advertised as a zero hours contract job, the people that apply must be happy with the contract or they wouldn't apply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Timeh   10 #17 Posted April 3, 2015 It is true, a job is advertised as a zero hours contract job, the people that apply must be happy with the contract or they wouldn't apply.  Or they are so desperate for work they have no choice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bigthumb   10 #18 Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) We both know that isn't true.  So which zero hours contract jobs have you been forced to accept against your will?  ---------- Post added 03-04-2015 at 10:44 ----------  Or they are so desperate for work they have no choice?  What if the choice is that the job ceases to exist?  I'm pretty sure the alternative to taking a job is that you can remain out of work. It might not be an attractive option but it always exists. Edited April 3, 2015 by Bigthumb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
loraward   10 #19 Posted April 3, 2015 Or they are so desperate for work they have no choice?  There is always a choice, and we read about the people that choose not to work every day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Timeh   10 #20 Posted April 3, 2015 There is always a choice, and we read about the people that choose not to work every day.  Yes there is, take one of go hungry. Thats the choice for some. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
loraward   10 #21 Posted April 3, 2015 Yes there is, take one of go hungry. Thats the choice for some.  There are other choices they can make, they could start their own business, travel to other EU countries to look for work, go to a food bank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Timeh   10 #22 Posted April 3, 2015 There are other choices they can make, they could start their own business, travel to other EU countries to look for work, go to a food bank.  Are you for real? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bigthumb   10 #23 Posted April 3, 2015 I know folk from public sector jobs where they retired in their 50s. They have paid off their mortgages and can pay their bills. Some work zero hour contract jobs to relieve the boredom between holidays.  It works like this. Phone rings... Can you work a couple of days next week.  No we are on holiday but I could do the week after.  No good the job is this week.  Ok well call me again next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PeteMorris   10 #24 Posted April 3, 2015 It is true, a job is advertised as a zero hours contract job, the people that apply must be happy with the contract or they wouldn't apply.  Or they are so desperate for work they have no choice?  Or forced to take the job by the benefits people?  Ron Jeremy says earlier that the people he employs on ZHC's find it mutually acceptable. What if the worker doesn't want to come in on a particular day, for what could be a myriad of reasons, and the employer 'does' want them in? How does that work? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...