New Tory Welfare Cuts revealed..

[go4it 10]

I agree but think it works both ways, why should British pensioners who hoiliday in Spain all winter be paid by our government. I'm not on about the ones there for two weeks, but those for 3 to 6 months at a time.

 

Because for 30-40 years of their lives they have paid National Insurance.

 

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As for not paying pensions, I think there are some people who would happily see pensioners deprived of their pensions

 

The young who have never worked a proper day in their lives?

[Frederick1 10]

As for not paying pensions, I think there are some people who would happily see pensioners deprived of their pensions, which now seems to be considered the same as being 'on benefits.'

 

Not from where I'm sitting Anna! I worked for 60 years for my pension, and don't take holidays min Spain or anywhere else during the winter.

Class it as a "benefit"? Don't think so - I've bloody earned it!

:)

[Anna B 1,404]

Because for 30-40 years of their lives they have paid National Insurance.

 

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The young who have never worked a proper day in their lives?

 

I agree, but I think that after the villification of the unemployed, pensioners seem to be next on the hit list. A very dangerous bit of 'divide and conquer'...

[truman 10]

I agree, but I think that after the villification of the unemployed, pensioners seem to be next on the hit list. A very dangerous bit of 'divide and conquer'...

 

You reckon the tories are about to attack pensioners? All the reports I've seen seem to imply that they will get even more protection..

[Anna B 1,404]

You reckon the tories are about to attack pensioners? All the reports I've seen seem to imply that they will get even more protection..

 

They need the pensioner vote. Wait until after the election...

[Mecky 10]

You reckon the tories are about to attack pensioners? All the reports I've seen seem to imply that they will get even more protection..

 

Yeah, wait until after the General Election when the tories stop throwing gold bars at them

[truman 10]

Yeah, wait until after the General Election when the tories stop throwing gold bars at them

 

Are you suggesting the tories will win then? Or that Labour will attack the pensioners?

Edited April 2, 2015 by truman

[Mecky 10]

Are you suggesting the tories will win then? Or that Labour will attack the pensioners?

 

I said ages ago, back in 2010, the tories will tell fibs about the state of the economy, aided and abetted by rightwing quangos such as the ONS, in time for the 2015. I have also said I hope the tories win, because it hasn't seemed to have sunk into people how bad and dangerous they really are. I wonder how many people who have been adversley affected by tory policies i.e. everyone not a banker, not a large business owner or hight profile celebrity, will still vote for them.

 

This poxy letter we saw yesterday about 100 firms backing the tories. Well, no surprise there is there. I wonder how many of these businesses are British, how many of their owners/shareholders are entitled to vote, how many of them such as Phillip Green etc, have been squirelling money out of the UK in tax schemes?

[Berberis 10]

I said ages ago, back in 2010, the tories will tell fibs about the state of the economy, aided and abetted by rightwing quangos such as the ONS, in time for the 2015.

 

I love the way you and other staunch Labour supporters will accept ONS figures when they support your argument but as soon as they report anything that does not, its a right-wing quango

[*_ash_* 88]

Yeah, wait until after the General Election when the tories stop throwing gold bars at them

 

It's probably more a case of voting for them, because the alternative is the Reds promising to take gold bars away from them, or anyone with any money - and not only that, so he can spend it on Scottish nurses!

 

That backfired didn't it - it was supposed to try and win the Scottish vote and now he has no chance.

[sheff1johnny 10]

Because for 30-40 years of their lives they have paid National Insurance.

 

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The young who have never worked a proper day in their lives?

 

Two generalisations.

The young have never worked...Really. What all of them, a minority, a majority. Maybe truer to say the young have not paid taxes, as they have never been able to earn enough.

have all pensioners worked every day of their lives? majority probably have, but not all have.

[Frederick1 10]

They need the pensioner vote.

 

Damn right they do Anna - there's over four million of us!!!

I apply that to any of the main three parties.

 

:)

 

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Yeah, wait until after the General Election when the tories stop throwing gold bars at them

 

Stop Mecky? When did they start? I must have been out!