Syria Girl’s Dad On Al Muhajiroun March

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Surely the more important issue is why are the UK government along with some other Western and Arab governments carrying out bombings in Syria? These bombings have only increased the violence by IS who then started killing western and arab hostages. What is the end goal of these attacks? First they were supporting the rebels and now Assad.

 

Thats an interesting claim. I was totally unaware that the UK had carried out bombing raids in Syria. Perhaps you could provide a link. I was aware however that IS had murdered UK citizens.

Surely the more important issue is for you to get your facts right whilst trying to drag a thread off topic.

[loraward 10]

Surely the more important issue is why are the UK government along with some other Western and Arab governments carrying out bombings in Syria? These bombings have only increased the violence by IS who then started killing western and arab hostages. What is the end goal of these attacks? First they were supporting the rebels and now Assad.

There are hundreds of armed opposition groups in Syria and most don't support IS, they are fighting IS and Assad.

 

Aug 2014

Islamic State militants and Syrian government forces are said to be encircling the key city of Aleppo, in what some believe could be a tipping point in the three-year civil war.

 

Some analysts believe Assad has been avoiding confrontation with Islamic State, allowing it to weaken the moderate rebels, but this might change when it comes to the battle for Aleppo.

[MikeFrank 10]

We should do nothing I think. Nothing in Iraq and Syria, apart from providing aid, we should do nothing about people who want to go. Let them go but change the law so they can't come back. They are our enemies.

 

If we need to push the green agenda this is one reason I support it. The sooner we have alternatives to oil we can turn our backs on these backward countries and let them implode.

[Bigthumb 10]

We should do nothing I think. Nothing in Iraq and Syria, apart from providing aid, we should do nothing about people who want to go. Let them go but change the law so they can't come back. They are our enemies.

 

If we need to push the green agenda this is one reason I support it. The sooner we have alternatives to oil we can turn our backs on these backward countries and let them implode.

 

There is a very simple solution to this. Anyone who wants to chuck in their lot with IS should be helped to leave the country. We should offer to aid their passage in exchange for them exchanging UK citizenship for that of IS. It could be stamped on their passport as they leave.

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Surely the more important issue is why are the UK government along with some other Western and Arab governments carrying out bombings in Syria? These bombings have only increased the violence by IS who then started killing western and arab hostages. What is the end goal of these attacks? First they were supporting the rebels and now Assad.

 

Whilst that is an important issue, it is also a completely different issue.

 

This topic is about the father who blamed the Police for his daughter running off to join ISIS. He is then pictured on a march with people that are sympathetic to ISIS, indicating that perhaps he had a bigger role to play in his daughters actions than the Police.

[Snapshot 10]

Whilst that is an important issue, it is also a completely different issue.

 

This topic is about the father who blamed the Police for his daughter running off to join ISIS. He is then pictured on a march with people that are sympathetic to ISIS, indicating that perhaps he had a bigger role to play in his daughters actions than the Police.

 

Bravo!

[Tommo68 10]

To be honest its time the media stopped making a fuss about this whole stiry and giving it unnecessary attention.

 

The girls went, to either marry terrorists and one assumes either produce more terrorists, or to become suicide bombers.

 

Frankly who really cares, if they think like that we are well rid of them and we should never let them back in the country.

 

If they do cahnge their minds at a later date, tough... they made their lifestyle choice and it was a life-time choice.

 

There are far more interesting issues that need attention instead of this obvious distraction.

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[Eater Sundae 12]

To be honest its time the media stopped making a fuss about this whole stiry and giving it unnecessary attention.

 

The girls went, to either marry terrorists and one assumes either produce more terrorists, or to become suicide bombers.

 

Frankly who really cares, if they think like that we are well rid of them and we should never let them back in the country.

 

If they do cahnge their minds at a later date, tough... they made their lifestyle choice and it was a life-time choice.

 

There are far more interesting issues that need attention instead of this obvious distraction.

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I don't think it is necessarily that simple. We are concerned when people in a position of influence over children use that position for their own ends, be that parents, family friends, teachers, doctors, TV celebrities etc who sexually groom or otherwise assault a child. We do not blame the victim in these cases. Yet if children are brought up in environments (not chosen by them) that inspire them to travel to Syria and join IS, be it by their parents or religious leaders, then are they somehow more culpable. Is that fair?

Edited March 28, 2015 by Eater Sundae

[mafya 243]

I don't think it is necessarily that simple. We are concerned when people in a position of influence over children use that position for their own ends, be that parents, family friends, teachers, doctors, TV celebrities etc who sexually groom or otherwise assault a child. We do not blame the victim in these cases. Yet if children are brought up in environments (not chosen by them) that inspire them to travel to Syria and join IS, be it by their parents or religious leaders, then are they somehow more culpable. Is that fair?

 

A very good point...

[Snapshot 10]

A very good point...

 

Whooosh!

[astrols 10]

I don't think it is necessarily that simple. We are concerned when people in a position of influence over children use that position for their own ends, be that parents, family friends, teachers, doctors, TV celebrities etc who sexually groom or otherwise assault a child. We do not blame the victim in these cases. Yet if children are brought up in environments (not chosen by them) that inspire them to travel to Syria and join IS, be it by their parents or religious leaders, then are they somehow more culpable. Is that fair?

 

As Mafya says - it's a good point. We are concerned when these people abuse or assault children. When they're very young the Social Services take them into care and hope that the placement they choose will ensure a more stable and suitable upbriniging for these children. This week a High Court Judge has decreed that a Rotherham man and his wife have no right to have their children because he is too domineering & insists that the occasional smack does no harm and his wife, to no avail, agrees that he is not aggressive or violent.The children were still taken in to care. Does that ruling set a precedent that a Muslim upbringing is also too domineering in that the parents insist on their children being taught the Qur'ran that implicitly decrees that parents teach their children that it is their duty to promote their ideals by fair means or foul? And if that is the case, do we then start taking all Muslim children into care to protect them from that? Is that fair?

Edited March 29, 2015 by astrols

[mafya 243]

Whooosh!

 

Whoosh Bang and wallop! it actually was a serious point that was raised its just you who wasn't intelligent enough to comprehend it. In some cases it may be that parents with extremist views teach their kids the same but you also get that with some extremist non Muslim racist parents too.

 

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As Mafya says - it's a good point. We are concerned when these people abuse or assault children. When they're very young the Social Services take them into care and hope that the placement they choose will ensure a more stable and suitable upbriniging for these children. This week a High Court Judge has decreed that a Rotherham man and his wife have no right to have their children because he is too domineering & insists that the occasional smack does no harm and his wife, to no avail, agrees that he is not aggressive or violent.The children were still taken in to care. Does that ruling set a precedent that a Muslim upbringing is also too domineering in that the parents insist on their children being taught the Qur'ran that implicitly decrees that parents teach their children that it is their duty to promote their ideals by fair means or foul? And if that is the case, do we then start taking all Muslim children into care to protect them from that? Is that fair?

 

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What a load of tosh, muslim parents teaching us to learn about the Quraan is not domineering just the same way other religions teaching their kids about the holy scriptures/books of their religion isn't domineering. You may get the odd extremist muslim parent teaching extremist ways to their kids but you are making it sound as if it is the norm with muslim parents.

I think your hatred of Islam/muslims is making you come out with stupid comments like the one in bold.

Maybe parents with veiws like yours about muslims need their children taking off them as they are at risk of growing up as muslim haters.

Edited March 29, 2015 by mafya