Benefit sanctions evidence

[Pilly57 10]

He has yes

 

Good :-)

 

I should have asked ...

 

Housing Benefit? ...Council Tax Reduction?

 

Though I imagine he has!

[Chris_Sleeps 10]

but if they are being sanctioned for failing to abide by the conditions on their jobseekers agreement, they deserve all they get.

Just to clarify - starvation and deprivation. If someone fails to abide by the conditions on their jobseekers agreement then they don't deserve to eat that week.

 

Three cheers for humanity!!

[Happ Hazzard 10]

Whether they eat or not is up to them. But if they sign an agreement of things they need to do in order to receive a benefit and fail to live up to the terms of that agreement, of course they should not be paid. Why on earth should they? What is the point of having conditions if you get the money whether or not you fulfill them?

[TJC1 10]

human rights?

[Chris_Sleeps 10]

Whether they eat or not is up to them.

Not if they've had their money taken away and are unable to buy food.

But if they sign an agreement of things they need to do in order to receive a benefit and fail to live up to the terms of that agreement, of course they should not be paid. Why on earth should they?

They should be paid because taking the last bit of income off of the unemployed, leaving them with no means to buy food, or heat, is unnecesarily harsh. We don't punish the most hardened criminals by denying them food - but you think it fine to punish turning up late at the JobCentre in this way.

 

Secondly, it's not a contract. A contract implies that both parties enter into the agreement with the same degree of negotiation. The state can dictate its terms, and thus shouldn't be as brutal in its dealings with people.

[geared 302]

human rights?

 

To free money??

 

Where do I sign up???

[TJC1 10]

To free money??

 

Where do I sign up???

 

in a sense. yes. its not called 'entitled' for nothing. its part of the european human rights bill.

[Happ Hazzard 10]

Not if they've had their money taken away and are unable to buy food.

 

They should be paid because taking the last bit of income off of the unemployed, leaving them with no means to buy food, or heat, is unnecesarily harsh. We don't punish the most hardened criminals by denying them food - but you think it fine to punish turning up late at the JobCentre in this way.

Do you think there are any circumstances in which sanctioning would be reasonable? Such as failure to turn up at all to sign on, or not applying for any jobs, or purposely trying to mess up job interviews?

[TJC1 10]

why would anyone purposely mess up job interviews??

[Cyclone 10]

why would anyone purposely mess up job interviews??

 

Because they don't want to work.

[TJC1 10]

Because they don't want to work.

 

Get a job then if you dont want to work. Jeez.

[unbeliever 10]

There's nothing to stop those on benefits cutting down on the beer, fags and sky tv a bit so that they can put something aside in case they get sanctioned.

It's not wise to function dependent on a week to week income stream, no matter what your circumstances.