Alan Ladd   10 #13 Posted March 4, 2015 That's why food banks are still growing enormously then  I parked outside a food bank in a small town in South Yorkshire recently. A couple pulled up in a CAR. Went in obtained their needs. Drove away.  A few minutes later I saw them park in the town centre and go into the Witherspoons.  Car? Witherspoons? Food bank? Poverty? bull****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ubermaus   10 #14 Posted March 4, 2015 Migration, health, economy, spending etc. etc. just one massive list of failures.  ---------- Post added 04-03-2015 at 16:28 ----------  As Labour have said they'll carry on with the cuts what will change if they get in? Ed Balls  "We will be cutting departmental spending in 2015-16 and not raising it, with no more borrowing to cover day-to-day spending"  from here  http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/12/balls-reaffirms-labours-commitment-cuts-2015  Its hardly basis for saying conservatives did a good job. If they had reached their targets or even come close we wouldnt be in this mess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #15 Posted March 4, 2015 Migration, health, economy, spending etc. etc. just one massive list of failures.  So what will change with Labour..genuine question.. after all it didn't end very well after their last go.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ubermaus   10 #16 Posted March 4, 2015 As Labour have said they'll carry on with the cuts what will change if they get in? Ed Balls  "We will be cutting departmental spending in 2015-16 and not raising it, with no more borrowing to cover day-to-day spending"  from here  http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/12/balls-reaffirms-labours-commitment-cuts-2015  Yeh, because Osborne borrowed too much, way too much. Failed to address property issue, failed to cut the deficit enough. Another recession is on the way.  ---------- Post added 04-03-2015 at 16:31 ----------  So what will change with Labour..genuine question.. after all it didn't end very well after their last go..  Probably not a lot but at least Labour councils (Like Sheffield) budgets won't get cut to ribbons.  The point is both parties are a joke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #17 Posted March 4, 2015 Yeh, because Osborne borrowed too much, way too much. Failed to address property issue, failed to cut the deficit enough. Another recession is on the way.  So Labour will cut just the same... no land of milk and honey under Mr. Milliband et al?  ---------- Post added 04-03-2015 at 16:33 ----------  The point is both parties are a joke.  That's not quite what you said earlier.. how much is the budget per capita in Sheffield compared to Henley or Oxford? Genuine question.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
purdy   10 #18 Posted March 4, 2015 Time for the next crash, it isn't far of.  May if Ed Balls becomes Chancellor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alan Ladd   10 #19 Posted March 4, 2015 If you believe we needed to cut the deficit, all they've done instead is increase borrowing. The way they've gone about it is destroying the UK. 1 million at foodbanks. And the cuts are going to get worse if they get in again because they failed miserably to reach any of the targets set in 2010.  ---------- Post added 04-03-2015 at 16:26 ----------   See above. They failed to reach their targets. And by quite some way.[/quote  The deficit, as a % of GDP (the only really meaningful measure) has fallen by 50% since 2010. The structural deficit is down by a third. This is less than aimed for but is a remarkable result allowing for the massive amount of borrowing Labour undertook trying to stimulate the economy after they had wrecked it.  ---------- Post added 04-03-2015 at 17:36 ----------  Time for the next crash, it isn't far of.  Mid May if Milliband and Balls get in. (but don't worry, they wont). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ubermaus   10 #20 Posted March 4, 2015 So Labour will cut just the same... no land of milk and honey under Mr. Milliband et al? ---------- Post added 04-03-2015 at 16:33 ----------   That's not quite what you said earlier.. how much is the budget per capita in Sheffield compared to Henley or Oxford? Genuine question..  Never said it would be. I was responding to the post that said Cameron has been successful. Don't have time to get into a council debate, but if you look at the ones that have been cut the vast majority are Labour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Total Chaos   10 #21 Posted March 4, 2015 The government have so successfully managed the economy we are now seeing a return of average earnings to pre crash levels. I hope fellow Sheffield Forum members will join me in congratulating the professional way Osborne and Cameron have brought the country back from the brink of bankruptcy.  Cool,so they have paid back all the 3 trillion that has been borrowed.lets see if the base interest comes back up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #22 Posted March 4, 2015 Never said it would be. I was responding to the post that said Cameron has been successful. Don't have time to get into a council debate, but if you look at the ones that have been cut the vast majority are Labour.  Cynics would say that labour councils might have managed the cuts badly to make themselves look like victims and the government the bad guys. Case in point is don valley stadium. The London olympics had hardly been cleaned up and it gets closed down and levelled. No rescue plan, just a bulldozing.  But I'm not a cynic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alan Ladd   10 #23 Posted March 4, 2015 Never said it would be. I was responding to the post that said Cameron has been successful. Don't have time to get into a council debate, but if you look at the ones that have been cut the vast majority are Labour.  Of course it is, they were spending the most. Cant beat the socialists for spending other peoples money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ubermaus   10 #24 Posted March 4, 2015 If you believe we needed to cut the deficit, all they've done instead is increase borrowing. The way they've gone about it is destroying the UK. 1 million at foodbanks. And the cuts are going to get worse if they get in again because they failed miserably to reach any of the targets set in 2010.  ---------- Post added 04-03-2015 at 16:26 ----------   See above. They failed to reach their targets. And by quite some way.[/quote  The deficit, as a % of GDP (the only really meaningful measure) has fallen by 50% since 2010. The structural deficit is down by a third. This is less than aimed for but is a remarkable result allowing for the massive amount of borrowing Labour undertook trying to stimulate the economy after they had wrecked it.  ---------- Post added 04-03-2015 at 17:36 ----------   Mid May if Milliband and Balls get in. (but don't worry, they wont).  I wouldnt say remarkable. I'd say a failure on most accounts. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/11168941/Why-are-we-still-failing-to-reduce-the-deficit.html  ---------- Post added 04-03-2015 at 16:54 ----------  Of course it is, they were spending the most. Cant beat the socialists for spending other peoples money.  Move down to Surrey then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...