DnAuK Â Â 10 #13 Posted February 10, 2015 Whats a key-keg beer? My point exactly. Unless you are a real ale enthusiast you don't really care. Â Real Ale doesn't come served in a key keg. That's generally reserved for craft beer. Although some people will key keg anything these days and call it 'craft'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
E-Man Groovin   27 #14 Posted February 10, 2015 I love wine, but I've also recently developed a liking for straightforward ales too (of the pale variety mainly).  However, I see Ubermaus' point completely. I think Sheffield is very well served for real ale bars (even to the point of the New York Times calling us the "beer capital of the UK"). So what's the harm in a bit of variety? You could then go ale drinking 6 nights of the week, and then wine sipping on the remaining 1 :-p  I loved Trippets when Bill ran it, there used to be a superb atmosphere in the place. Even the folks who took it over, did a good job in my view. It retained a bit of that vibe.  I really tried to like it in its Thornbridge incarnation but always found that it totally lacked atmosphere. I don't know what it was - lighting, decor, music (Welchie excepted!) - but it always felt soulless.  I hope the new bar is something really interesting - maybe along the lines of Edinburgh's Bon Vivant perhaps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ubermaus   10 #15 Posted February 10, 2015 Real Ale doesn't come served in a key keg. That's generally reserved for craft beer. Although some people will key keg anything these days and call it 'craft'.  It's beer. Its alcohol. Meh.  ---------- Post added 10-02-2015 at 13:28 ----------  I love wine, but I've also recently developed a liking for straightforward ales too (of the pale variety mainly).  However, I see Ubermaus' point completely. I think Sheffield is very well served for real ale bars (even to the point of the New York Times calling us the "beer capital of the UK"). So what's the harm in a bit of variety? You could then go ale drinking 6 nights of the week, and then wine sipping on the remaining 1 :-p  I loved Trippets when Bill ran it, there used to be a superb atmosphere in the place. Even the folks who took it over, did a good job in my view. It retained a bit of that vibe.  I really tried to like it in its Thornbridge incarnation but always found that it totally lacked atmosphere. I don't know what it was - lighting, decor, music (Welchie excepted!) - but it always felt soulless.  I hope the new bar is something really interesting - maybe along the lines of Edinburgh's Bon Vivant perhaps.  Trippets was great. Thornbridge ruined that place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Leah-Lacie   10 #16 Posted February 10, 2015 Whats a key-keg beer? My point exactly. Unless you are a real ale enthusiast you don't really care.  A key-keg beer, using Thornbridge's Jaipur as an example, they have the classic, real ale, hand-pulled beer. They also make a key-keg version, which is colder, fizzy, and pulled from a 'lager' tap. They are apparently the exact same beer, but one is carbonated and they are stored differently. The carbonation and the temperature do make for quite a difference in taste. The key-keg beers are normally good transitional beers for people who are more used to drinking lagers than ales.  Did Dada actually sell any hand pulled beers or was it all key-keg? I don't remember seeing hand pull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
E-Man Groovin   27 #17 Posted February 10, 2015 @ubermaus it's getting deeply ale-geeky in here. I think they're missing your point completely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DnAuK Â Â 10 #18 Posted February 10, 2015 A key-keg beer, using Thornbridge's Jaipur as an example, they have the classic, real ale, hand-pulled beer. They also make a key-keg version, which is colder, fizzy, and pulled from a 'lager' tap. They are apparently the exact same beer, but one is carbonated and they are stored differently. The carbonation and the temperature do make for quite a difference in taste. The key-keg beers are normally good transitional beers for people who are more used to drinking lagers than ales. Â Did Dada actually sell any hand pulled beers or was it all key-keg? I don't remember seeing hand pull. Â Yeah they did. Had about 4 on. Â ---------- Post added 10-02-2015 at 14:15 ---------- Â @ubermaus it's getting deeply ale-geeky in here. I think they're missing your point completely. Â And no... not missing the point at all. He don't like beer and beer bars. Yet he joins in a discussion about the closure of one. As have you. Most of us who like beer are no longer 12 and think that 'all beer is just alcohol'. Beer is far more complex than that. And far more complex than wine as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
E-Man Groovin   27 #19 Posted February 10, 2015 DnAuK, I'm not going to do that ridiculous internet arguing/point scoring thing so I'll start by saying I totally respect the real ale geeks. I was convinced to stop drinking lager some years ago by friends who are ale geeks and have discovered the delights of (as I said mainly pale) ales.  But do you see Uber's point, that there's nothing wrong with variety? I.e. those who don't go a bundle on ales (and even those who do but just want to do something different occasionally), DaDa's closure offers an opportunity for something different?  That's why I'm commenting on this thread BTW - remember Trippets/Dada has only been an ale bar for a comparatively short time. But it's not even the ales I was casting aspersions on - it was the atmosphere.  Notwithstanding that, surely you are not saying that every bar in every location should be a real bar?  Are you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ubermaus   10 #20 Posted February 10, 2015 @ubermaus it's getting deeply ale-geeky in here. I think they're missing your point completely.  I respect beer too, but Wine is a far more interesting and satisfying drink to me.  ---------- Post added 10-02-2015 at 15:19 ----------  Yeah they did. Had about 4 on. ---------- Post added 10-02-2015 at 14:15 ----------   And no... not missing the point at all. He don't like beer and beer bars. Yet he joins in a discussion about the closure of one. As have you. Most of us who like beer are no longer 12 and think that 'all beer is just alcohol'. Beer is far more complex than that. And far more complex than wine as well.  I realise beer has complexities. I just don't drink it too much anymore so the real ale thing doesn't interest me much and why we need 100 real ale pubs is beyond me. We could do with a few alternative venues to balance things up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
MrPete   10 #21 Posted February 10, 2015 Both in the same glass works well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Andy C   86 #22 Posted February 10, 2015 DnAuK, I'm not going to do that ridiculous internet arguing/point scoring thing so I'll start by saying I totally respect the real ale geeks. I was convinced to stop drinking lager some years ago by friends who are ale geeks and have discovered the delights of (as I said mainly pale) ales. But do you see Uber's point, that there's nothing wrong with variety? I.e. those who don't go a bundle on ales (and even those who do but just want to do something different occasionally), DaDa's closure offers an opportunity for something different?  That's why I'm commenting on this thread BTW - remember Trippets/Dada has only been an ale bar for a comparatively short time. But it's not even the ales I was casting aspersions on - it was the atmosphere.  Notwithstanding that, surely you are not saying that every bar in every location should be a real bar?  Are you?  I certainly wouldn't suggest every bar should be a specialist real ale bar, however it would be nice to see every bar have the option of a decent beer.  Personally I liked Trippets in its final days when they added decent beer to the formula of a quality wine list and food.  Dada seemed to be an attempt to jump on the 'craft beer bar' bandwagon and not quite get it right. The location probably didn't help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Jonny5 Â Â 10 #23 Posted February 10, 2015 Dada always seemed to have a lot of private functions at weekends. Â So I stopped going and I guess everyone else did! Â Any sort of decent bar would work there but using half the pub for a DJ that no one is interested in will never work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
belperite   11 #24 Posted February 10, 2015 I hate it when people hire entire pubs out for functions. Although, more than once I've turned up and gone in anyway due to inadequate signage, and have been halfway into my first pint and the buffet before realising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...