beansforyou   10 #73 Posted January 14, 2015 I've never gone in a car park before knowing how much it costs.  If I can't read the prices I go elsewhere, its not like there's short supply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
albertsquare   10 #74 Posted January 15, 2015 Hi, re reply regarding the absurdity of people messing about with postcodes to get people to their premises. If the correct post code is entered ( such as off John Lewis's site ) then the iPhone Sat Nav app will guide you there . But if you enter your destination as a request , such as "John Lewis's Car Park" then this can be easily be manipulated . In much the same way as an Internet search engine will bring the site with most hits up first and so a company can elevate their search result to the top of the pile by hitting their own site over and over - they have robots to do it which is why on some sites you often have to type a reply in the form of some obscure scrip - this is to try to stop these machines. So yes they can manipulate results and get people to their premises. As for the tariff board this can only be seen when you have actually turned into the car park and are at the barrier, so if other cars are behind you are a bit stuck really, you cant back out and if you go through the barrier you have either got to pay for up to a hour parking or argue the point when you have driven back round to the exit. As I say this Car Park is a Cash Pit for NCP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
LeMaquis   10 #75 Posted January 15, 2015 As I say this Car Park is a Cash Pit for NCP  Aren't their prices marked as you go in? And didn't she ask when she got there whether this was John Lewis? If she went to the wrong place, didn't check where she was and what the prices were she can't very well claim she was misled or ripped off. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #76 Posted January 15, 2015 I just tried on (google maps navigation on an android phone), entered john lewis. Top two options were "John Lewis, Sheffield" and "John Lewis Multi Storey carpark, Sheffield".  I tried them both and they both navigate to the correct place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ECCOnoob   1,043 #77 Posted January 15, 2015 I just tried on (google maps navigation on an android phone), entered john lewis. Top two options were "John Lewis, Sheffield" and "John Lewis Multi Storey carpark, Sheffield". I tried them both and they both navigate to the correct place.  Same for me.  I have to say I have some disbelief over our fellow poster's JL story. I simply do not believe that even for a newbie of Sheffield they would really think that Hartshead Square was the official car park for John Lewis.  Surely alarms bells would have rung when JL was nowhere in sight in front, alongside or behind the car park. Surely alarm bells would have rung even more when a 10-15 minute walk was needed to get to the store passing various other and closer car parking areas.  Notwithstanding the fact that signs showing the charging tariff were displayed before entry and a quick look on the JL website gives this clear note:  There's a car park attached to the shop which has 322 spaces. There are also other car parks situated on Charter Row, Carver Street and Furnival Gate.  If their tale is really true I would say lesson learnt. Don't be so blindly reliant on a sat nav. use your own eyes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sgtkate   10 #78 Posted January 16, 2015 Hi, re reply regarding the absurdity of people messing about with postcodes to get people to their premises. If the correct post code is entered ( such as off John Lewis's site ) then the iPhone Sat Nav app will guide you there . But if you enter your destination as a request , such as "John Lewis's Car Park" then this can be easily be manipulated . In much the same way as an Internet search engine will bring the site with most hits up first and so a company can elevate their search result to the top of the pile by hitting their own site over and over - they have robots to do it which is why on some sites you often have to type a reply in the form of some obscure scrip - this is to try to stop these machines. So yes they can manipulate results and get people to their premises. As for the tariff board this can only be seen when you have actually turned into the car park and are at the barrier, so if other cars are behind you are a bit stuck really, you cant back out and if you go through the barrier you have either got to pay for up to a hour parking or argue the point when you have driven back round to the exit. As I say this Car Park is a Cash Pit for NCP   All car parks I'm aware of must offer a grace period in case you can't find a parking space for example and leave immediately, so in the circumstances where you drive up and get a ticket and nearly have a heart attack over the price, simply drive straight to the exit barrier and it will let you out without paying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #79 Posted January 16, 2015 All car parks I'm aware of must offer a grace period in case you can't find a parking space for example and leave immediately, so in the circumstances where you drive up and get a ticket and nearly have a heart attack over the price, simply drive straight to the exit barrier and it will let you out without paying.  Doesn't the system count the cars in and out so it knows whether or not there's a space available? Genuine question.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sgtkate   10 #80 Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) Doesn't the system count the cars in and out so it knows whether or not there's a space available? Genuine question..  There may be some exceptions. I don't know if this is a legal requirement or not. Quick google didn't reveal anything about it but a lot of car parks have a comment in teeny tiny writing at the bottom of the prices boards saying something about 20 mins free or whatever.  Found this, but it's an article not a statement of face: http://www.britishparking.co.uk/News/good-car-parking-practice-includes-grace-periods  And from Parking Prankster who seems pretty knowledgable about this stuff: http://parking-prankster.blogspot.ro/2014/09/napier-parking-issue-ticket-for-12.html Edited January 16, 2015 by sgtkate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
No User Name   10 #81 Posted January 16, 2015 Well its quite simple really - if you enter a barriered car park and dont like the fees being charge, simply drive to the exit barrier and ask to get out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #82 Posted January 16, 2015 There may be some exceptions. I don't know if this is a legal requirement or not. Quick google didn't reveal anything about it but a lot of car parks have a comment in teeny tiny writing at the bottom of the prices boards saying something about 20 mins free or whatever. Found this, but it's an article not a statement of face: http://www.britishparking.co.uk/News/good-car-parking-practice-includes-grace-periods  And from Parking Prankster who seems pretty knowledgable about this stuff: http://parking-prankster.blogspot.ro/2014/09/napier-parking-issue-ticket-for-12.html  OK...I was thinking more specifically of barrier controlled systems... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
sgtkate   10 #83 Posted January 16, 2015 OK...I was thinking more specifically of barrier controlled systems...  Yes, that is for barrier controlled ones. Your ticket will allow you to leave without paying within the reasonable time set by the car park which should be advertised. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
neilf   10 #84 Posted February 1, 2015 (edited) Been in John Lewis today spent £50, still had to pay £1.20 an hour to park, think its an absolute swiz! don't deserve our custom. Meadowhall in future me thinks! Edited February 2, 2015 by nikki-red Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...