bullerboY Â Â 10 #25 Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) Well Aston Martin you would back him up you are/were a copper,now tell us what decade you enforced the law.I read Beanys book when it was first published and yes tough measures were needed then as indeed now but tough and bent are two different things,Booper was a criminal which ever way you look at it.There are good cops and bad cops,honest hardworking cops and downright lazy cops I know some of each but not by having my collar felt.I would never subscribe to this book when there are much better ones with good content.Perhaps I should write a book on my 50 years in the motor trade a might make some dosh.Whats that old saying,set a thief to catch a thief. Edited December 7, 2014 by bullerboY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
agnostica   10 #26 Posted December 6, 2014 Just finished reading it. Enjoyed as much as the first book. If you reading this graham hope you serious about third book Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mistym00 Â Â 10 #27 Posted December 7, 2014 Can this still be bought can anyone tell me where I can get this thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trav4   10 #28 Posted December 7, 2014 When people read Boopers tale, they must realise what policing was like in the sixties., and why. To understand further, you must first read the excellent book by J.P. Bean called ‘ Sheffield Gang wars. It describes what Sheffield was like in the 30s. It was ruled by gangs, predominantly the Mooney Gang; another ran by Sam Garvin, and the Park Brigade. These people used guns, razors and coshes to get what they wanted, and got away with murder, literally on several occasions. Ordinary people, and especially pub landlords lived in fear of them.. It was only on the orders of the government of the day, via the home office, ordering the Sheffield watch committee to ‘sort it out’ that a ‘Flying squad’ of police were formed to give the gangs ‘some of their own medicine’ that it was eventually stopped. The gangs were literally beaten into submission and locked up, receiving heavy sentences from the magistrates. The policemen in the 60s were taught their job by older policemen who were themselves, or who had been taught by policemen who were, involved in bringing the gangs to justice. Villains who abused police verbally or physically were shown the errors of their ways. The det. Chief superintendent ‘ chang’ demanded results from the detectives, and got them. Informants were invaluable sources of information and were encouraged. The ‘rhino whip affair’ put a stop to all that., and as a result crime increased and detection figures plummeted I worked with Booper. He was a good policeman and an excellent thief catcher. He had numerous informants who were themselves criminals. He socialised with them to gain their trust, as was the norm, but unfortunately, and he will be the first to admit, he got too closely involved, leading to his eventual downfall. Some critics of his books, and him, are no doubt some of the criminals he helped put away. Other ‘do gooders’ who are quick to criticise should make a point of reading Sheffield Gang Wars, and be aware that , like many other things, what was done in the 60s is not acceptable today,. That was then, this is now. I have read and enjoyed his first book and look forward to reading his second. The police force today is toothless, trying to do a job with their hands tied behind their backs. Good luck to them, and to you Boops…. M  He was a criminal and if you was a copper you should have no excuses for him. His crimes were in the 80's by the way and nothing to do with the sixties or pre war Sheffield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Oh Carol   10 #29 Posted December 7, 2014 Tell me Mods, why do you allow mention of such a truly awful individual on the Forum ??????????Far worse characters get mentioned on the forum,....that's why! At least he had the guts to expose the seamier side of the police. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
bullerboY Â Â 10 #30 Posted December 8, 2014 Far worse characters get mentioned on the forum,....that's why! At least he had the guts to expose the seamier side of the police.He was the seamier side of the police!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
yorky15   10 #31 Posted December 8, 2014 Can this still be bought can anyone tell me where I can get this thanks  Try the prison library! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
trav4 Â Â 10 #32 Posted December 8, 2014 Far worse characters get mentioned on the forum,....that's why! At least he had the guts to expose the seamier side of the police. Â He has the guts to expose nothing that's why no one else has been charged with anything. It's ok saying coppers did this that and the other bent thing without naming them, a bag of wind does as much good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Oh Carol   10 #33 Posted December 8, 2014 He has the guts to expose nothing that's why no one else has been charged with anything. It's ok saying coppers did this that and the other bent thing without naming them, a bag of wind does as much good. Probably did not want to risk an unaccountable ending! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
yorky15 Â Â 10 #34 Posted December 8, 2014 You are either a honest Police Officer or a villain. You cannot be both. Does it take that much working out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
only_me   11 #35 Posted December 8, 2014 You are either a honest Police Officer or a villain. You cannot be both. Does it take that much working out?  In that context the police force of old must have been riddled with villains proporting to be police officers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
rossyrooney   12 #36 Posted December 8, 2014 One of our old neighbours on the Wybourn Jackie Mason looked after the Town Hall for ages and was followed by Peter Springett who became a copper after retiring from Sheffield Wednesday.  I would'nt hear a word against him, so no, not all coppers are on the dark side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...