stormvixen   10 #25 Posted November 24, 2014 Which sports do you think are dangerous/high risk?  Downhill biking, for one (although to be fair, most people I have known who do that, have got private insurance anyway, which whilst chances are in the event of an injury will mean treatment by the NHS in the first instance, usually means they get shifted as soon as possible for aftercare etc.)  ---------- Post added 24-11-2014 at 19:19 ----------  Should probably say I'm not against biking in any way - my brother does a fair bit of it - but it was the first example that came to mind! That and street luge (though that's very specialised) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Andy   10 #26 Posted November 24, 2014 Our NHS should be for everyone. In your fantasy world what would happen if someone didn't have insurance but injured themselves doing sport? Would the ambulance service refuse to take them to hospital, or the surgeons refuse to operate?  I am proud to live in a country that provides the best healthcare system in the world for all of its citizens, free to all at the point of delivery. I would never want our doctors and nurses to have to check eligibility before treating someone, and I would never want someone to be turned away due to lack of funds.  Starting to restrict access to health care is a very dangerous step which can only result in the end of our NHS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
John---doe   10 #27 Posted November 24, 2014 No ,riding a damn horse. When will it be made compulsory to take out private insurance that covers accidents when being involved in any form of sporting activity,and not to be reliant upon the overstretched NHS .  Ridiculous statement  I assume you include: walking/hiking running tennis golf gardening etc etc  because all are sports and past times that will result in injuries and death. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
newcomer01 Â Â 10 #28 Posted November 24, 2014 Andy where did all that come from ?Refusal,restrictions,Eligability.I made an initial comment that I felt may help the NHS and not to run it down. to try and consider other options where people do sports that run a higher risk of injury.This was an example not a pop at people who undertake sporting activity.My comment is PRO NHS and not ANTI NHS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
999tigger   10 #29 Posted November 24, 2014 Andy where did all that come from ?Refusal,restrictions,Eligability.I made an initial comment that I felt may help the NHS and not to run it down. to try and consider other options where people do sports that run a higher risk of injury.This was an example not a pop at people who undertake sporting activity.My comment is PRO NHS and not ANTI NHS.  Your views about the NHS being for the working class seemed quite divisive. The NHS is for the benefit of everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
newcomer01 Â Â 10 #30 Posted November 24, 2014 I do not recall making any views on working class or being divisive that I can see.Just the merits of helping the NHS ,and not knocking it .The person who initially enraged me was the person who moaned about the waiting time for an ambulance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #31 Posted November 24, 2014 Since when has using a bike to get to work been a sport?????? I was wrong to use working person,I was going to put working man,but then that would exclude working women wouldn`t it. By use of working class ,may by definition exclude Blue collar workers.Not quite sure how I should have expressed myself that would pacify you.  People? Humans? Something like that.  ---------- Post added 24-11-2014 at 22:36 ----------  Andy where did all that come from ?Refusal,restrictions,Eligability.I made an initial comment that I felt may help the NHS and not to run it down. to try and consider other options where people do sports that run a higher risk of injury.This was an example not a pop at people who undertake sporting activity.My comment is PRO NHS and not ANTI NHS.  If you're going to "require" people to have insurance, then you can only enforce that by denying them treatment if they don't have it. It's just the first step towards the US system of health insurance, which would be the end of the NHS, not supporting it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
newcomer01 Â Â 10 #32 Posted November 24, 2014 Nope,I don`t recall saying people being denied treatment either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #33 Posted November 25, 2014 You're going to have to explain then, what does this mean  When will it be made compulsory to take out private insurance that covers accidents when being involved in any form of sporting activity,and not to be reliant upon the overstretched NHS .  How could the "compulsory" insurance be made to work. And what happens if someone doesn't have it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
newcomer01 Â Â 10 #34 Posted November 25, 2014 If we can use a little imagination here,so I will use an example remember just an example. Example,most road users ,cars etc have vehicle insurance.By the same token,other road users have made a choice to purchase another form of insurance from the AA,Greenflag,RAC.This is an example based upon a thought and opinion . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
barleycorn   10 #35 Posted November 25, 2014 If we can use a little imagination here,so I will use an example remember just an example. Example,most road users ,cars etc have vehicle insurance.By the same token,other road users have made a choice to purchase another form of insurance from the AA,Greenflag,RAC.This is an example based upon a thought and opinion . Your example doesn't work... that aside, why are you fixating on sports etc? Why not extend the insurance to over any activity involving risk?  jb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #36 Posted November 25, 2014 If we can use a little imagination here,so I will use an example remember just an example. Example,most road users ,cars etc have vehicle insurance.By the same token,other road users have made a choice to purchase another form of insurance from the AA,Greenflag,RAC.This is an example based upon a thought and opinion .  That's not an example. It's a statement about people having bought car insurance. It's not even an analogy. Car insurance is nothing to do with health, how does it relate to compulsory health insurance for some sports?  What happens if someone doesn't have insurance? Who decides what requires insurance and what doesn't? And how is this not a move towards the general health insurance of the US? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...