Midnight! does it exist?

[RootsBooster 24]

How old is a child the moment it is born? Not a month, week, day, hour, minute, second, or microsecond after they're born, but the exact moment it is born?

 

What number does a stopwatch start on?

There is no exact moment that a child is born, birth is a process and not a precise moment.

 

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Yes and there are seconds, minutes, hours!

 

Of course, just not an absolute zero.

[spilldig 190]

Noon and midnight should suffice.

[martok 10]

Noon and midnight should suffice.

 

I agree, one bugbear though, why do some people say 12 o'clock midday and 12 o'clock midnight, when its bloody obvious its 12 o'clock.

[mjw47 10]

The next time your watch has both fingers vertically together pointing at 12 look out the window, if it's dark it's 12 o clock midnight if it's light it's 12 o clock midday.

 

The OP asked if midnight exists, it does.

 

Whilst you're waiting try this. http://ccs.infospace.com/ClickHandler.ashx?ld=20141120&app=1&c=im.s1.uk.hp&s=ims1uk&rc=im.s1.uk&dc=&euip=2.219.224.226&pvaid=e8e5bc7b15e449469665ec967b7135a7&dt=Desktop&fct.uid=c8dcc62e7e824ee5bdbd6c1fe65f43ef&en=8VQDhNXFIEuKav5XXBQBxJa8QAj6%2ftpMxFSP2eFGBqI%3d&du=http%3a%2f%2fwww.youtube.com%2fwatch%3fv%3dFGVGFfj7POA&ru=http%3a%2f%2fwww.youtube.com%2fwatch%3fv%3dFGVGFfj7POA&ap=1&coi=239138&cop=main-title&npp=1&p=0&pp=0&ep=1&mid=9&hash=7C1A454BB9702B838EEAACFF076C4FCE

Edited November 20, 2014 by mjw47

[martok 10]

The next time your watch has both fingers vertically together pointing at 12 look out the window, if it's dark it's 12 o clock midnight if it's light it's 12 o clock midday.

 

The OP asked if midnight exists, it does.

 

Whilst you're waiting try this. http://ccs.infospace.com/ClickHandler.ashx?ld=20141120&app=1&c=im.s1.uk.hp&s=ims1uk&rc=im.s1.uk&dc=&euip=2.219.224.226&pvaid=e8e5bc7b15e449469665ec967b7135a7&dt=Desktop&fct.uid=c8dcc62e7e824ee5bdbd6c1fe65f43ef&en=8VQDhNXFIEuKav5XXBQBxJa8QAj6%2ftpMxFSP2eFGBqI%3d&du=http%3a%2f%2fwww.youtube.com%2fwatch%3fv%3dFGVGFfj7POA&ru=http%3a%2f%2fwww.youtube.com%2fwatch%3fv%3dFGVGFfj7POA&ap=1&coi=239138&cop=main-title&npp=1&p=0&pp=0&ep=1&mid=9&hash=7C1A454BB9702B838EEAACFF076C4FCE

 

What wrong with just saying midnight and midday?

[mjw47 10]

What wrong with just saying midnight and midday?

 

Nothing whatsoever dear boy, but I'm an old git, and any chance I get to use the bold just to prove I know what it's for I'm in there.

 

I also used the right click on the mouse for the first time to provide the link in the post. One of my daughters saw me copying out link details in longhand the other day, fell about laughing, and then showed me what to do.

 

And they say you can't teach an old dog new tricks!

[TimmyR 10]

OK here is a spanner, the works into which I shall throw:

 

The 12 before noon (ante meridium) = midnight

The 12 after noon (post meridium) = midnight

 

Therefore 12am and 12pm are the same time. Even if you can distinguish them and one means midnight, how do you know whether its the midnight at the start of the day or the end of the day as is necessary on timetables?

 

All this leans towards the fact that the 12 hour clock is a bit crap and we should all use the 24 hour clock. It also leans towards the fact that saying 12am and 12pm is simply wrong.

Edited November 21, 2014 by TimmyR

[PRESLEY 1,230]

There is no 12am! Tis as follows:

 

00:00am - Midnight

01:00am

02:00am

03:00am

04:00am

05:00am

06:00am

07:00am

08:00am

09:00am

10:00am

11:00am

12:00pm - Noon / Midday

13:00pm

14:00pm

15:00pm

16:00pm

17:00pm

18:00pm

19:00pm

20:00pm

21:00pm

22:00pm

23:00pm

 

 

23.59 is the nearest to midnight there is no 12pm, I should know I used to be a Werewolf but I'm alright Nowoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh:hihi:

[Nagel 10]

There is no 12am! Tis as follows:

 

00:00am - Midnight

01:00am

02:00am

03:00am

04:00am

05:00am

06:00am

07:00am

08:00am

09:00am

10:00am

11:00am

12:00pm - Noon / Midday

13:00pm

14:00pm

15:00pm

16:00pm

17:00pm

18:00pm

19:00pm

20:00pm

21:00pm

22:00pm

23:00pm

 

 

Sorry, but that's just crazy. You can't mix up the 24 hour clock with the am/pm system. You use one or the other, not both together. There is no need to put am or pm after 24 hour clock notation as it's unambiguous.

 

So 14:00 pm makes no sense. 14:00 is just 14:00, or 14:00h if you prefer.

 

As for Midnight, well it's 24:00h or 12pm.

[Chelle-82 10]

Sorry, but that's just crazy. You can't mix up the 24 hour clock with the am/pm system. You use one or the other, not both together. There is no need to put am or pm after 24 hour clock notation as it's unambiguous.

 

So 14:00 pm makes no sense. 14:00 is just 14:00, or 14:00h if you prefer.

 

As for Midnight, well it's 24:00h or 12pm.

 

I was merely stating the ante meridiem and post meridiem in 24:00hr format.

 

My apologies for the 'crazyness'

[martok 10]

There is no 12am! Tis as follows:

 

00:00am - Midnight

01:00am

02:00am

03:00am

04:00am

05:00am

06:00am

07:00am

08:00am

09:00am

10:00am

11:00am

12:00pm - Noon / Midday

13:00pm

14:00pm

15:00pm

16:00pm

17:00pm

18:00pm

19:00pm

20:00pm

21:00pm

22:00pm

23:00pm

 

 

Not according to this clock, midnight is 24:00

 

http://wps.prenhall.com/wps/media/objects/6392/6546092/24-Hour_Clock.jpg

Edited November 21, 2014 by martok

[RootsBooster 24]

OK here is a spanner, the works into which I shall throw:

 

The 12 before noon (ante meridium) = midnight

The 12 after noon (post meridium) = midnight

 

Therefore 12am and 12pm are the same time. Even if you can distinguish them and one means midnight, how do you know whether its the midnight at the start of the day or the end of the day as is necessary on timetables?

 

All this leans towards the fact that the 12 hour clock is a bit crap and we should all use the 24 hour clock. It also leans towards the fact that saying 12am and 12pm is simply wrong.

It's very simple as far as I'm concerned, just a case of following numerical order.

With a 12hr clock, a.m. counts up (starting immediately after 12pm) from the first hour, through the second, 3rd etc, to 11am, followed by the period of an hour which is completed at the point of 12am.

 

It does not make sense that the 12 following 11am would be a pm and does not follow numerical order for a higher number of a different set to come before the lower numbers.

 

The am's and the pm's are each a set of twelve hours, the twelfth of each set are not interchangeable.