dosxuk   10 #13 Posted November 19, 2014 They will not. 12 pm is noon.   Your opinion is the correct one. However, when people incorrectly put an am or pm after 12, am means midnight and pm means midday.  Which is quite easily explained once you include minutes or seconds in the time.  00:00:01 is obviously "am", while 12:00:01 is obviously "pm". Since 00:00:00 is for all intents and purposes the same as 00:00:00.0000000001, it only makes sense that 00:00 is 12am, while 12:00 is 12pm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
martok   10 #14 Posted November 19, 2014 Which is quite easily explained once you include minutes or seconds in the time. 00:00:01 is obviously "am", while 12:00:01 is obviously "pm". Since 00:00:00 is for all intents and purposes the same as 00:00:00.0000000001, it only makes sense that 00:00 is 12am, while 12:00 is 12pm.  That works the other way.  23:59:59.999999999999999999999999999999999999999 is obviously pm and is for all intents and purposes the same as 2400 hours or 0000 hours.  11:59:59.999999999999999999999999999999999999999 is obviously am and is for all intents and purposes the same as 1200 hours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mandem   13 #15 Posted November 20, 2014 I always thought 12 noon and 12 midnight were neither pm or am, but one second after was. I know I am using the 12 hour clock just to show the point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Chelle-82   10 #16 Posted November 20, 2014 Is this a trick question? Or have we somehow merged with the Essex forum  :hihi: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
barleycorn   10 #17 Posted November 20, 2014 I dont thing you can say 12pm or 12 am. It should, imho, be 12 noon or 12 midnight. As 12 IS the meridiem, how can it be anti or post?  But then is it the 12 midnight at the start of the day or the end? Best to stick with the 24 hr clock to avoid confusion.  jb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #18 Posted November 20, 2014 Strange, but is it just my logic? I received a discount voucher for a restaurant which gave a discount up to 12pm on Sunday. I then thought is this 12pm midday or 12pm midnight. Does 12pm midnight exist? Is it pm or am?  Yes 12pm (midnight) exists, it is the hour that follows 11pm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
dosxuk   10 #19 Posted November 20, 2014 Yes 12pm (midnight) exists, it is the hour that follows 11pm.  No, that's 12am.  Its very simple, the first 12 hours are am, the second are pm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Chelle-82   10 #20 Posted November 20, 2014 No, that's 12am. Its very simple, the first 12 hours are am, the second are pm.  There is no 12am! Tis as follows:  00:00am - Midnight 01:00am 02:00am 03:00am 04:00am 05:00am 06:00am 07:00am 08:00am 09:00am 10:00am 11:00am 12:00pm - Noon / Midday 13:00pm 14:00pm 15:00pm 16:00pm 17:00pm 18:00pm 19:00pm 20:00pm 21:00pm 22:00pm 23:00pm  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #21 Posted November 20, 2014 No, that's 12am. Its very simple, the first 12 hours are am, the second are pm. Of course the first 12 hours are am, starting with the first hour past midnight. Everything past midnight is am. Example, 11:59:59 pm is before midnight (1 second to 12) 12:00:00 pm comes one second later and is the completion or peak of the twelfth hour (midnight) 12:00:01 am comes another second later, it is past 12pm and is the beginning of the first hour of the new day (which is completed at 1am)  ...at least, in twelve hours. However...  There is no 12am! Tis as follows: 00:00am - Midnight 01:00am 02:00am 03:00am 04:00am 05:00am 06:00am 07:00am 08:00am 09:00am 10:00am 11:00am 12:00pm - Noon / Midday 13:00pm 14:00pm 15:00pm 16:00pm 17:00pm 18:00pm 19:00pm 20:00pm 21:00pm 22:00pm 23:00pm   If you're going to use a 24 hour clock it should have 24 hours, not 23. Granted that a digital clock will go from 23:59:59 to 00:00:00 but this is purely for ease of manufacture, there's simply no point in making it display 24:00:00 just for one second.  Think about it, the start of a new day begins after 00:00:00, not on it. If you ever have to count anything, do you start with a zero first?  It's all explained here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Chelle-82   10 #22 Posted November 20, 2014 Of course the first 12 hours are am, starting with the first hour past midnight. Everything past midnight is am. Example, 11:59:59 pm is before midnight (1 second to 12) 12:00:00 pm comes one second later and is the completion or peak of the twelfth hour (midnight) 12:00:01 am comes another second later, it is past 12pm and is the beginning of the first hour of the new day (which is completed at 1am)  ...at least, in twelve hours. However...    If you're going to use a 24 hour clock it should have 24 hours, not 23. Granted that a digital clock will go from 23:59:59 to 00:00:00 but this is purely for ease of manufacture, there's simply no point in making it display 24:00:00 just for one second.  Think about it, the start of a new day begins after 00:00:00, not on it. If you ever have to count anything, do you start with a zero first?  It's all explained here   But I have listed 24hrs if you count them! There is no 12:00am.  But I see what you are saying - it's a bit like does a 7 day week start on a Monday or a Sunday! Apparently it's a Sunday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #23 Posted November 20, 2014 But I have listed 24hrs if you count them! There is no 12:00am.  But I see what you are saying - it's a bit like does a 7 day week start on a Monday or a Sunday! Apparently it's a Sunday.  You've listed 0 as an hour. The first hour is 1, there is 60 minutes within this hour, the last hour is 24 (again, 60 minutes within it). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
martok   10 #24 Posted November 20, 2014 No, that's 12am. Its very simple, the first 12 hours are am, the second are pm.  That would make noon 12am and midnight 12pm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...