Wheelchair users and prams on public transport, whose priority

[martok 10]

It was never about throwing anybody off a bus. That was a spurious distraction.

This thread was about the reasonable expectation of a buggy user to vacate the wheelchair space on a bus when necessary.

 

It became about throwing three infants off a bus when cyclone said they should be thrown off a bus to make room for people in wheelchairs.

Edited December 1, 2014 by martok

[Plain Talker 11]

And there was me thinking that it was me defending a parents right to be not thrown off a bus with her three infants just to make room for someone in a wheelchair.

 

No, you've been beyond obtuse, frankly, and persistently and deliberately obfuscating the issue.

[ami_j 10]

I'm presuming that these measures are in place so the buses conform to some sort of disability discrimination act.

 

Personally, I've got a pram that I can't fold down, and I understand that I'm in one of the spaces I have to move. If there is nowhere for me to move to I have to catch the next bus.

 

You actually own a pram and use buses and can grasp this idea, such a shame martok cannot seem to get it

[martok 10]

No, you've been beyond obtuse, frankly, and persistently and deliberately obfuscating the issue.

 

What is obtuse about defending a mothers right to transport her three infants on a bus without fear of being thrown off?

 

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You actually own a pram and use buses and can grasp this idea, such a shame martok cannot seem to get it

 

Post 328 and no one as said that a bus company would refund the fair that had been paid or explained why they deem it acceptable to throw three infants off a bus just to make room for someone else. I know that I could never be that selfish that I would expect them to get off just so that I could get on.

[Plain Talker 11]

What is obtuse about defending a mothers right to transport her three infants on a bus without fear of being thrown off?

 

Im not even going to dignify that..

[Obelix 11]

Nothing you or anyone else can say will lead me to think it is acceptable to throw three infants off a bus just to make room for someone else. I am happy to agree to disagree with you all but I won't back down from the only stance that I think could ever be acceptable in a civilised society.

 

Door for the narrowminded is that way Smithy.......->

[El Cid 220]

I am very surprised that the ruling has been overturned.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-30376446

 

This would mean that at busy times, wheelchair users would be refused public transport. Was the bus in question totally full, requirering someone to get off?

[Cyclone 10]

Yeah, I'm surprised as well. I hope it gets appealed higher and reinstated.

 

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It became about throwing three infants off a bus when cyclone said they should be thrown off a bus to make room for people in wheelchairs.

 

It became about throwing them off when you made up the scenario where they point blank refuse to move.

[Member 10]

My two penneth.

It should be first come first served. If a parent and buggy get on the bus first then they get the spot. If a disabled passenger gets on the bus first then they have priority.

[mort 10]

One warning and one only - if this thread descends back into bickering sniping and abuse it will be closed and will remain closed and bans will be issued for all participants

[El Cid 220]

My two penneth.

It should be first come first served. If a parent and buggy get on the bus first then they get the spot. If a disabled passenger gets on the bus first then they have priority.

 

The law is that provision must be made for wheelchair users, so the signs need changing to show wheelchair spaces only, this is what happens when people dont do the right thing.

[Obelix 11]

The problem it seems is that it is a "priority" spot for wheelchair users.

 

Not a wheelchair only spot.

 

Either the bus companies need to amend their terms of carriage to give drivers the authority to require people to vacate the spot, or Parliament needs to legislate.

 

It seems it's far too tricky to simply expect people to do the decent thing....