Is it fair to send 700 military personnel to face Ebola in West Africa

[GLASGOWOODS 10]

I've posted several links that counter that and the nurse in Spain is said to have caught it off her glove.

 

But here is another link.

 

A group of German medical doctors in a peer-reviewed medical journal article published by Oxford University Press have challenged a key assumption regarding the Ebola virus repeatedly asserted by Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

 

The researchers found that a patient showing no symptoms of the disease can still transmit a virus like Ebola by air if droplets containing the virus are transmitted to another person by a sneeze or cough.

 

As WND reported Tuesday, the World Health Organization has admitted that “wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual, who has respiratory symptoms caused by other conditions or who vomits violently could transmit the Ebola virus over a short distance to another nearby person.”

 

WHO said it could happen when “virus-laden heavy droplets are directly propelled, by coughing or sneezing onto the mucus membranes or skin with cuts or abrasions of another person.”

 

Still, WHO added a qualification, insisting the transmission of Ebola by sneezing or coughing is not within its definition of airborne transmission

 

 

 

 

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/ebola-victims-without-symptoms-could-still-be-contagious/#xKHVZLqP0k9IvMeD.99

 

 

Some people have compared it to aids when claiming it is difficult to catch.

 

 

Ask you self this question.

 

You need to cross London on the underground.

 

Train A is full and 50% of the passengers are HIV posative.

 

Train B is full and it is known that one person on that train has contracted Ebola.

 

Which train would you get onto, I would choose train A.

 

Would a plane carrying 50% HIV positive victims and 50% Ebola victims be named Ebola Gay?

[Alcoblog 10]

Would a plane carrying 50% HIV positive victims and 50% Ebola victims be named Ebola Gay?

 

I like that, very clever! ... although at first just flippant, a plane with that manifest would most probably carry more destructive power than the dropping of a little boy on Hiroshima.

Nature vs science ... no competition.

[firemanbob 10]

Then you have must have chosen not to read the links I provided.

 

 

50 days at temperatures below 5°C.

 

 

 

 

 

They wouldn't but its very common in this country for people to sneeze whilst in a densely packed confined spaces, not something that is likley in Africa but very likley in a large city like London.

 

Professor Peter Piot says

"I wouldn't be worried to sit next to someone with Ebola virus on the Tube as long as they don't vomit on you or something. This is an infection that requires very close contact."

 

 

Very close contact is something that is hard to avoid an the underground, and he would be happy as long as they don't spray him with their bodily fluids, like when some one coughs, sneezes or vomits, again very common in this country.

 

 

World Health Organization Contradicts US Centers for Disease Control: Admits Ebola Can Spread via Coughing, Sneezing and Contaminated Surfaces.

 

The World Health Organization has issued a bulletin which confirms what Natural News has been asserting for weeks: that Ebola can spread via indirect contact with contaminated surfaces and aerosolized droplets produced from coughing or sneezing.

 

http://www.globalresearch.ca/world-health-organization-contradicts-us-centers-for-disease-control-admits-ebola-can-spread-via-coughing-sneezing-and-contaminated-surfaces/5407164

 

Just found out the above site is classed as a conspiracy website, but there does appear to be some truth in what they are saying.

 

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-29518703

Ebola is spread by direct contact with contaminated body fluids. Blood, vomit and saliva can all carry and spread the deadly virus.

anyone who comes into close proximity potentially puts themselves at risk.

If an infected droplet does get on to your skin, it can be washed away immediately with soap and water or an alcohol-based hand sanitiser.

The eyes are a different matter. A spray of droplets from a sneeze directly into the eye, for example, could let the virus in.

Similarly, the mucous membranes of the mouth and inside of the nose are vulnerable areas, as is broken skin.

 

 

 

http://www.webmd.com/news/20141006/how-get-ebola

 

Oct. 6, 2014 -- Amid continued confusion over how Ebola spreads, the World Health Organization issued new guidance on Monday aimed at public education.

 

First, the agency says, the virus is not airborne. Catching it through the air would depend on getting an infectious dose of the virus from a suspended cloud of tiny particles.

 

That’s how diseases like the flu and measles are spread.

 

http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/who-admits-sneezing-could-transmit-ebola/

 

NEW YORK – In a largely overlooked media advisory email, the World Health Organization admitted there are some circumstances in which the current strain of Ebola in West Africa can be transmitted through coughing or sneezing.

“Theoretically, wet and bigger droplets from a heavily infected individual, who has respiratory symptoms caused by other conditions or who vomits violently, could transmit the virus – over a short distance – to another nearby person,” the United Nations agency said Monday.

 

“This could happen when virus-laden heavy droplets are directly propelled, by coughing or sneezing (which does not mean airborne transmission) onto the mucus membranes or skin with cuts or abrasions of another person.”

 

The WHO advisory said saliva and tears “may also carry some risk.”

Edited October 10, 2014 by firemanbob

[Tommo68 10]

Ebola is perhaps the most dangerous thing to happen health-wise since the black death.

 

It would make a great deal of sense to close our borders to anyone until this outbreak has been controlled and the threat removed. Of course it would make a lot more sense for everyone to close their borders at the same time.

 

You do have to wonder as to why ebola has been allowed to spread and why the oputbreak was not properly contained from the outset. How long will it be before every country has someone that is infected in it, with all the dangers that could present.

 

The list of countries with an infected person in it is already too long and is growing, goverments and international agencies appear to be unwilling to try to take firm action.

 

With any virus there can be potential for it to become transmittable by mosquitoes and/or fleas as did the bubonic plague. Nor should we dismiss the danger of the virus mutating to become airborne as did the pneumonic plague.

 

Imposing a quarantine of the most affected areas. Closing all international borders then sending in as much apropriate help to the affected areas as possible and a soon as possible would appear to be the most prudent of actions to take. In countries like the uk that imports so much food feeding everyone will be a problem but a few weeks hardship is better than possibility of ebola becoming a global epidemic

 

Through naivety, ignorance maybe stupidity or simply for financial reasons I'm sure some people would oppose such seemingly drastic measures. I suggest we send those people to help in the infected areas first.

 

 

Sending military personnel, even if they are ALL volunteers, to the site where ebola is currently most prevalent on the face of it appears to be a potential recipie for disaster.

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Edited October 10, 2014 by Tommo68

[firemanbob 10]

Ebola is perhaps the most dangerous thing to happen health-wise since the black death.

 

It would make a great deal of sense to close our borders to anyone until this outbreak has been controlled and the threat removed. Of course it would make a lot more sense for everyone to close their borders at the same time.

 

You do have to wonder as to why ebola has been allowed to spread and why the oputbreak was not properly contained from the outset. How long will it be before every country has someone that is infected in it, with all the dangers that could present.

 

The list of countries with an infected person in it is already too long and is growing, goverments and international agencies appear to be unwilling to try to take firm action.

 

 

Sending military personnel, even if they are ALL volunteers, to the site where ebola is currently most prevalent on the face of it appears to be a potential recipie for disaster.

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Its not an issue unless they let them back into the UK without first making them spend a month in quarantine and if any of them catch Ebola they should be treated on the RN hospital ship and not in the UK.

 

We took more precaution to stop Rabies entering the country.

[Alcoblog 10]

Ebola is perhaps the most dangerous thing to happen health-wise since the black death.

 

Don't forget Spanish Flu like most people do. Up to 100,000,000 killed which was a far sight more than the war itself (less than Black Death).

I can't really see Ebola being such a high death toll.

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

They should have been sent a long time ago too. If they say Ebola is as bad as they're making out, why have we had to wait until it's a threat to white people? Why wasn't aid sent across sooner? It's like we are quite happy watching the Africans suffer......As soon as a westerner is infected......what a pathetic world we live in!

 

 

Maybe, just maybe this horrible disease is natures own way of reducing the population in areas that cannot sustain its self.

 

As for the 700 military, keep them here and put them on border patrol around the coast.

 

Angel1.

[Halibut 12]

Maybe, just maybe this horrible disease is natures own way of reducing the population in areas that cannot sustain its self.

 

As for the 700 military, keep them here and put them on border patrol around the coast.

Angel1.

 

What a ludicrous suggestion. The only thing that will ensure our safety in the long term is the disease is brought under control in Africa. We should be giving as much aid and assistance as we can possibly manage.

In all our interests.

[tinfoilhat 11]

Maybe, just maybe this horrible disease is natures own way of reducing the population in areas that cannot sustain its self.

 

As for the 700 military, keep them here and put them on border patrol around the coast.

 

Angel1.

 

700 around our coastline? There will be some big gaps. How many immigrants just wash up on our beaches each year? Don't they come in shipping containers and planes?

[Halibut 12]

Its not an issue unless they let them back into the UK without first making them spend a month in quarantine and if any of them catch Ebola they should be treated on the RN hospital ship and not in the UK.

 

We took more precaution to stop Rabies entering the country.

 

Your lack of insight is staggering.

[firemanbob 10]

Your lack of insight is staggering.

 

That would make more sense if you explained why you hold that opinion.

[Halibut 12]

That would make more sense if you explained why you hold that opinion.

 

Your reference to rabies is ridiculous and unhelpful. The two diseases are vastly different.