David Crompton should resign

[dhs1 10]

You are absolutely right. However, I do not feel the answer is to merely beat up the government for demanding that budgets are cut.

 

Mr Crompton has to do the best he can with the resources he has. That is obvious. What is needed is a full review of policing nationally.

 

Central purchasing, cars uniforms and all necessary procurement being done centrally and uniformly must lead to huge savings in expenditure.

 

Scotland already has a national Police service.

 

Six Police areas, North East, North West, Midlands, South East (inc London) South West and Wales all commanded by Deputy Commissioners. A national detective agency in the style of the FBI with its own Deputy Commissioner.

 

Does away with the localized accountability which leads to apathy Political Correctness and institutionalized corruption.

 

Crompton should be supported and encouraged not threatened and marginalized until change comes.

 

My bold.

 

I agree we should support David Crompton but would prefer it if you had said " a national detective agency as Scotland Yard used to be." rather than the FBI.

[haddy 10]

What has it got to with him directly. He wasn't in charge of syp when this happened so how can he be accountable for it?

 

It's what he does now, but unfortunately he's the man that has been in charge since alot of revelations have come out about syp, including Hillsborough. Maybe he should get credit for not trying to cover things up which has clearly happened in the past!

 

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What has it got to with him directly. He wasn't in charge of syp when this happened so how can he be accountable for it?

 

It's what he does now, but unfortunately he's the man that has been in charge since alot of revelations have come out about syp, including Hillsborough. Maybe he should get credit for not trying to cover things up which has clearly happened in the past!

[janlizzy 10]

No,you are picking on the wrong person.You need to direct your anger at the real targets.It is they who need dismissal and punishments meted out,it is not Crompton but saying that sy police have a lot to answer for so lets see how well Crompton enables the inquiry,then start your petition if need be.

[spb1 10]

Yeah we should trust him:

 

http://www.upsd.co.uk/david-crompton/

 

Okey dokey, we tried trusting SYP and look where that has got us!

[malcolm717 10]

Couldn't agree more with Alan Ladd, buddysbuddy amongst others. CC Mr Crompton is not the most dynamic Chief Constable SYP has ever had but why is it possible to blame him. As I understand it he was well against having a Police Commissioner ??

It seems Mr SPB1 has an axe to grind with the Police, maybe we should start another thread wanting to know what that may be ??

[spb1 10]

Let's be clear here. The primary reason for the petition is the lack of proper policing in our community, Hexthorpe. We have spoken to members of Page Hall and Eastwood communities too, and they have said the same. The police are not doing their job. It is for this reason primarily that we wish to seek David Crompton's resignation. He was in charge whilst the problems have arisen and is in charge now as the problems continue.

 

We were offered a 6 week initiative here in Hexthorpe, called Operation Alliance, where the police were supposed to be stamping down on anti social behaviour and crime. The initiative ended and we are back to square one. The anti social behaviour continues, as does the crime. only last night a serious knife incident resulted in 4 men being arrested and 2 of them being stabbed. There have been several knife related incidents here where no arrests were made and the reports of the incidents were not followed up.

 

After having spoken to representatives of the other communities, we know that what we are going through they are too. It's OK defending Crompton, but if his force is providing an ineffective and unreliable service, he must accept responsibility for that. Quite amused how people come to his defense, but refuse to acknowledge that he gets paid a large salary to accept that responsibility!!

Edited September 1, 2014 by spb1

[1978 14]

Let's be clear, we all want crime clearing up in Hexthorpe as well as Page Hall and elsewhere. Zero tolerance is a grand idea, but very expensive to provide in more than a few hot spots at a time. That said it's no use doing it for only a few weeks or months. It takes time to work, and it has to be maintained. Hot spots of crime will get bigger and hotter otherwise, so the sooner they're tackled the better.

 

Petitions to evict the Chief Constable? A diversion of effort unless he's actually committed any offence. Dismissal won't happen just because some folks don't like his priorities. We need a Chief who's in post for long enough to discover what's what. Already within the UK a high proportion of Chiefs are currently either suspended or under some form of formal investigation, possibly leading to suspension or dismissal. No wonder there are few applicants when jobs become vacant. All the recent issues in South Yorkshire must make the job sound most unattractive to most people. We could well get someone the OP considers to be worse.

[spb1 10]

Do you not think two years is long enough for him to become acquainted with the problems our communities have been facing? He came into office in 2012. How long should we wait then before we lay the blame at his door? I'm amazed that you think that he doesn't know or understand what is happening in our communities. I believe he knows full well, and it's under his leadership that the problems with policing have continually got worse. I also believe that he has had ample time to address the issues present.

 

Another example of the problems. Since the problems were raised by our community, we have been constantly told by the police to report as many incidents as we can, so they can get an accurate feel of the frequency and type of incidents, and plan accordingly. We were told to call 101. Great we thought. They are taking us seriously. That was until we started hearing about the problems when residents were calling 101. Many abandoned their calls after the call not being answered after long periods. Because the call is answered automatically and then the caller is put on hold, the caller incurs a phone charge. We've been told frequently that people are waiting 10, 20 or 30 minutes+ for the calls to be answered. Even when the calls are being answered promptly, the callers have faced hostile operators, questioning why they were calling and if it was appropriate to be calling 101, even when the situations being reported were enough to cause distress to those calling. Examples would be of a 101 operator questioning why the caller would call 101 to report a party in the early hours that was causing a disturbance on the whole street. There were more serious issues that are apparently being dealt with too.

 

It got to the point that the council intervened and set up a hotline at their cost to counter the problems. The matter was raised numerous times to senior police officers, and promises were made on resolving the issues. To date they haven't been.

 

I could go on and on highlighting the problems, and I don't for a minute believe that David Crompton was wholly unaware of them. Even if he was unaware, then on that basis alone he should be sacked!

Edited September 1, 2014 by spb1

[Anna B 1,414]

David Crompton has lost all credibility. When even the Home Secretary calls for his resignation, he needs to admit defeat.

 

I don't see how he can carry on without the respect of his team, the government or the public. It's time to go.

[boyfriday 21]

David Crompton took on a highly paid job that compensates for the accountability the post holds. The buck stops with him whilst he is in office. If there is widespread ineffective policing within South Yorkshire then he must accept responsibility for that, commensurate with the post he holds. The don't blame him argument doesn't wash unfortunately.

 

If he was a CEO of a business that went bust, the shareholders would be demanding his resignation. Think of him as the CEO and us the shareholders, so why should he not resign? If he cannot formulate effective policing strategies, regardless of budget constraints, then he has no right to be in the role he is. Again, if he was a CEO and the business was struggling, the shareholders would look to him to deliver solutions and not expect him to be all apologetic and say we're stuck here and there's nothing I can do.

 

If he were CEO of a company, he'd direct all his resources to detection rather than prevention as the former would achieve short term goals which would placate the public, but we'd end up with lots of offenders becoming familiar with the revolving door of prison, ultimately costing the tax payer more and increasing criminality.

[spb1 10]

We are currently getting short term goals, such as the Operation Alliance, that has now ceased. We asked the question then and we ask it now, what the hell happens now?? To date we haven't had a definite strategy. There seems to be a total lack of clarity in how they are going to address these issues long term, and it feels like the buck is being passed on to the community.

[Smilie 10]

David Crompton has lost all credibility. When even the Home Secretary calls for his resignation, he needs to admit defeat.

 

I don't see how he can carry on without the respect of his team, the government or the public. It's time to go.

 

The Home Secretary has not asked David Crompton to resign.

 

It is the Police and Crime Commissioner, Shaun Wright, who has been asked to resign.

 

The PCC was a Councillor on Rotherham Council and was in charge of Children Services for a number of years whilst the child grooming was going on.