Anna B   1,414 #49 Posted August 29, 2014 You kidding me £12k full time! Why work for peanuts?  The way things are going soon everybody but the chosen few will be working for peanuts...haven't you heard - wages are going down... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
razvanalbu   10 #50 Posted August 29, 2014 The way things are going soon everybody but the chosen few will be working for peanuts...haven't you heard - wages are going down...  Are you joking? Minimum wage just gone up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #51 Posted August 29, 2014 Which party can? ---------- Post added 28-08-2014 at 21:17 ----------   If they came with nothing,hows that?  Fairly certain I came here with more than most Brits ever owned. But yeah, let's ignore that and carry on thinking all immigrants are of the streets of Warsaw and Bucharest and came here hitchhiking with nothing but a passport eating out of bins until they found a carwash that would hire them.  The stereotyping in this thread is predictably strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mecky   10 #52 Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) If we get out of the EU we could boot them straight back out if we didnt want them here. Sadly at present, because of the dictators in Brussels we cant kick them out as soon as they appear in the back of a curtain sider. ---------- Post added 28-08-2014 at 23:19 ----------   your taxes are going towards our membership of the circus in Brussels and overseas aid . Both of which are drains on our country .  You have to find them first. Secondly, there is international pressure to take people we might not want to, countries, even now, push for sanctions against us if they feel we are not pulling our weight/take our quotas etc. It would be a lot worse if we spat the dummy out and left the EU Edited August 29, 2014 by Mecky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Doom   10 #53 Posted August 29, 2014 The only solution is to exit the EU. We cannot control immigration until then.  Agreed!  Regards  Doom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
LeMaquis   10 #54 Posted August 29, 2014 Leaving the EU seems to be the only way of regaining control over our borders.  If you think leaving the EU will stop immigration then go and have a look round non-EU Norway and Switzerland and see how many immigrants live there.  Over a third of Switzerland's population was born to non-Swiss nationals. In Norway it's 14%. In the UK it's about 11%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Doom   10 #55 Posted August 29, 2014 If you think leaving the EU will stop immigration then go and have a look round non-EU Norway and Switzerland and see how many immigrants live there. Over a third of Switzerland's population was born to non-Swiss nationals. In Norway it's 14%. In the UK it's about 11%.  She didn't actually say she wanted to stop immigration.  I'm sure we're all agreed that some immigration is good for the country, the difference of opinion seems to be on the extent.  Regards  Doom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #56 Posted August 29, 2014 She didn't actually say she wanted to stop immigration. I'm sure we're all agreed that some immigration is good for the country, the difference of opinion seems to be on the extent.  Regards  Doom  Can you explain how leaving the EU will fix the one form of immigration that is demonstrated to be detrimental: illegal immigration? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SevenRivers   10 #57 Posted August 29, 2014 If you think leaving the EU will stop immigration then go and have a look round non-EU Norway and Switzerland and see how many immigrants live there. Over a third of Switzerland's population was born to non-Swiss nationals. In Norway it's 14%. In the UK it's about 11%.  The usual straw man, controlling immigration does not mean ending immigration. Even if you favour open borders with the whole world, why would you not at least give the power over immigration policy to our own elected government?  ---------- Post added 29-08-2014 at 10:03 ----------  Can you explain how leaving the EU will fix the one form of immigration that is demonstrated to be detrimental: illegal immigration?  Does our EU membership help us prevent illegal immigration? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tzijlstra   11 #58 Posted August 29, 2014 The usual straw man, controlling immigration does not mean ending immigration. Even if you favour open borders with the whole world, why would you not at least give the power over immigration policy to our own elected government? ---------- Post added 29-08-2014 at 10:03 ----------   Does our EU membership help us prevent illegal immigration?  It does, our border agency is part of a European network monitoring illegal immigration, profiling human trafficking organisations and stopping them by prosecuting them in European courts. The EU funds part of the costs of UK border agencies, helps in setting up contacts with other border agencies both in and out the EU and negotiates with countries where most illegal immigrants come from in an effort to improve information flow.  It sets up and funds refugee camps at the most likely border crossings abused for traffickking, such as Lampedusa and in Greece and Roumania to stop illegal immigrants actually getting into the EU and helps fund their repatriation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SevenRivers   10 #59 Posted August 29, 2014 It does, our border agency is part of a European network monitoring illegal immigration, profiling human trafficking organisations and stopping them by prosecuting them in European courts. The EU funds part of the costs of UK border agencies, helps in setting up contacts with other border agencies both in and out the EU and negotiates with countries where most illegal immigrants come from in an effort to improve information flow. It sets up and funds refugee camps at the most likely border crossings abused for traffickking, such as Lampedusa and in Greece and Roumania to stop illegal immigrants actually getting into the EU and helps fund their repatriation.  If being a member of the EU helps us prevent illegal immigration, why are they still arriving then? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Doom   10 #60 Posted August 29, 2014 Can you explain how leaving the EU will fix the one form of immigration that is demonstrated to be detrimental: illegal immigration?  I didn't say it would fix illegal immigration.  This thread relates to the number of legal immigrants coming into this country, the majority due to the open EU border policy....I'd like to see that stopped.  Regards  Doom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...