firemanbob 10 #97 Posted August 4, 2014 Bombing schools and hospitals is never acceptable,even in war. It is if the schools and hospitals are being used to launch attacks on a civilian population, used for storing weapons, or used by enemy fighters as a base of operations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Chris_Sleeps 10 #98 Posted August 4, 2014 It is if the schools and hospitals are being used to launch attacks on a civilian population, used for storing weapons, or used by enemy fighters as a base of operations. D'you think dropping bombs on schools makes the children there: A. Sympathetic to the Israeli state? B. A little angry at the Israeli state? I don't understand how anyone can truly think that bombing schools is a good way to achieve anything, let alone find some balance of peace and stability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
firemanbob 10 #99 Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) D'you think dropping bombs on schools makes the children there: A. Sympathetic to the Israeli state? B. A little angry at the Israeli state? I don't understand how anyone can truly think that bombing schools is a good way to achieve anything, let alone find some balance of peace and stability. It doesn't matter if Israel drops bombs on schools or not because the children of Gaza are taught to hate Jews regardless of what they do. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/23/world/middleeast/hamas-run-schools-in-gaza-set-out-to-teach-hebrew.html?_r=0 Hamas-Run Schools Set Out to Teach ‘the Language of the Enemy’ http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/09/03/new-%E2%80%98hate%E2%80%99-education-hebrew-class-to-be-taught-to-gaza-children/ As the school year begins across the world, a new course will be taught in some of Gaza’s schools, called Know Your Enemy. The class is a Hebrew course which Hamas officials decided to include back in March as part of the Gaza education curriculum this year. According to a New York Times article in May, the director general of Hamas’ Ministry of Education, Mahmoud Matar, stated that “through the Hebrew language we can understand the structure of Israeli society, the way they think.” It will be the first time the Hebrew language will be taught in Gaza schools in almost 20 years. If successful, Hamas will have all 180 schools in Gaza teach the Hebrew language in the future. “We look at Israel as an enemy. We teach our students the language of the enemy,” said Matar in the Times article. http://www.thetower.org/article/the-palestinian-textbook-fiasco/ Every year, children in Gaza and the West Bank are taught to hate Jews and Israelis, while Israeli schools promote coexistence. A bizarrely biased, State Department-funded study won’t change that fact. Edited August 4, 2014 by firemanbob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Chris_Sleeps 10 #100 Posted August 4, 2014 It doesn't matter if Israel drops bombs on schools or not If this mindset doesn't change, in 10-15 years time we'll still be here - having this same conversation. The kids that have seen their class blown up, and their friends and family injured, will be the one with a rocket in their hands. Truly. It's a cycle, and it's not going to end by bombing Gaza into the ground. It's fruitless, and mad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SqueakyPete 10 #101 Posted August 4, 2014 It is if the schools and hospitals are being used to launch attacks on a civilian population, used for storing weapons, or used by enemy fighters as a base of operations. You forgot to add. ......according to an Israeli source. ---------- Post added 04-08-2014 at 20:05 ---------- It doesn't matter if Israel drops bombs on schools or not because the children of Gaza are taught to hate Jews regardless of what they do. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/23/world/middleeast/hamas-run-schools-in-gaza-set-out-to-teach-hebrew.html?_r=0 Hamas-Run Schools Set Out to Teach ‘the Language of the Enemy’ http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/09/03/new-%E2%80%98hate%E2%80%99-education-hebrew-class-to-be-taught-to-gaza-children/ As the school year begins across the world, a new course will be taught in some of Gaza’s schools, called Know Your Enemy. The class is a Hebrew course which Hamas officials decided to include back in March as part of the Gaza education curriculum this year. According to a New York Times article in May, the director general of Hamas’ Ministry of Education, Mahmoud Matar, stated that “through the Hebrew language we can understand the structure of Israeli society, the way they think.” It will be the first time the Hebrew language will be taught in Gaza schools in almost 20 years. If successful, Hamas will have all 180 schools in Gaza teach the Hebrew language in the future. “We look at Israel as an enemy. We teach our students the language of the enemy,” said Matar in the Times article. http://www.thetower.org/article/the-palestinian-textbook-fiasco/ Every year, children in Gaza and the West Bank are taught to hate Jews and Israelis, while Israeli schools promote coexistence. A bizarrely biased, State Department-funded study won’t change that fact. Your links are not what I would call unbiased on the conflict. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
firemanbob 10 #102 Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) You forgot to add. ......according to an Israeli source. ---------- Post added 04-08-2014 at 20:05 ---------- Your links are not what I would call unbiased on the conflict. If you can post a link to an Hamas website showing the school curriculum I will be happy to read it, until then I can only assume that they are correct, and one of the links did say Israel are just as bad when it come to educating their children about the Palestinians, so one would presume that it is unbiased. Here's a couple more for you. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1583549/George-Bush-murdered-on-Hamas-puppet-show.html A children's puppet show in which a Palestinian boy stabs George W Bush to death has been broadcast on a Hamas-owned television station in the Gaza Strip. The boy declares "I place my trust in Allah. I need to kill you", before stabbing the US president in the chest, in the programme on the al-Aqsa station. Hamas launches TV Bugs Bunny-lookalike who declares 'I will eat the Jews' A Hamas TV show for children which was condemned last year for a Mickey Mouse lookalike character who encouraged terror attacks against Israelis has produced a new outrage - a Bugs Bunny lookalike who declares "I will eat the Jews". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-513925/Hamas-launches-TV-Bugs-Bunny-lookalike-declares-I-eat-Jews.html#ixzz39SFP0DAa http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/28/hamas-un-holocaust-lessons-gaza Hamas fights UN's 'poisonous' Holocaust lessons in Gazan schools Islamist group says it will do all it can to prevent inclusion of Holocaust in human rights curriculum at UN-run schools F Edited August 4, 2014 by firemanbob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SqueakyPete 10 #103 Posted August 5, 2014 If you can post a link to an Hamas website showing the school curriculum I will be happy to read it, until then I can only assume that they are correct, and one of the links did say Israel are just as bad when it come to educating their children about the Palestinians, so one would presume that it is unbiased. Here's a couple more for you. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1583549/George-Bush-murdered-on-Hamas-puppet-show.html A children's puppet show in which a Palestinian boy stabs George W Bush to death has been broadcast on a Hamas-owned television station in the Gaza Strip. The boy declares "I place my trust in Allah. I need to kill you", before stabbing the US president in the chest, in the programme on the al-Aqsa station. Hamas launches TV Bugs Bunny-lookalike who declares 'I will eat the Jews' A Hamas TV show for children which was condemned last year for a Mickey Mouse lookalike character who encouraged terror attacks against Israelis has produced a new outrage - a Bugs Bunny lookalike who declares "I will eat the Jews". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-513925/Hamas-launches-TV-Bugs-Bunny-lookalike-declares-I-eat-Jews.html#ixzz39SFP0DAa http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/feb/28/hamas-un-holocaust-lessons-gaza Hamas fights UN's 'poisonous' Holocaust lessons in Gazan schools Islamist group says it will do all it can to prevent inclusion of Holocaust in human rights curriculum at UN-run schools F Just that one little word proves my point. I have already said ages ago "I'm done TBH",because me having a tit for tat with you on this subject is futile. You can throw as many media sources as you like,but bottom line is,you can't confirm the validity of the sources or the media groups intentions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
firemanbob 10 #104 Posted August 5, 2014 You forgot to add. ......according to an Israeli source. No I didn't because the UN have confirmed that Hamas have used schools and other building to store rockets, fire rockets and hide fighters. ---------- Post added 05-08-2014 at 18:14 ---------- Your links are not what I would call unbiased on the conflict. The come up with some unbiased links to counter them. ---------- Post added 05-08-2014 at 18:16 ---------- Just that one little word proves my point. I have already said ages ago "I'm done TBH",because me having a tit for tat with you on this subject is futile. You can throw as many media sources as you like,but bottom line is,you can't confirm the validity of the sources or the media groups intentions. What point does it prove? There is no requirement for you to enter a discussion, and you are free to post your own unbiased media reports to support your stance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
frank ryan 10 #105 Posted August 6, 2014 I expected that this latest slaughter would adversely affect Israel - seemed likely. Sayeeda Warsi's resignation nails it on. My first reaction was that she is bandstanding until I saw her interview - she came across as something I didn't know she was capable of - a woman of principle. The libdems then did jump on the band wagon - 'vote for us, we're principled' (yeah yeah). whatever, this blows the political status quo - (never criticize Israel/urge restraint whilst selling the hardware to keep on killing (its good for business)) out of the water, very interesting - and quite refreshing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...