Staffie savages its owner to death

[kaylee1 10]

Have you read any of this thread? In post 49 I posted a link to a site that proves that staffies have never been known as "the nanny dog" - it's a myth put about by staffy apologists. Here's the link again.

 

http://thenannydogblog.blogspot.co.uk/

 

Secondly the rest of your post is a cut and paste job from http://www.dogbiteclaims.co.uk/dog-bite.html which is a website run by a firm of solicitors whose sole purpose is to make money out of dog bite claims. They're hardly impartial as the more they exaggerate how many attacks there are, the more money they make.

 

If you want to read an impartial viewpoint about staffies and the type of people who own them, I'd suggest have a look at the link below.

 

http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/the-truth-about-pit-bull-owners.html

 

I think it's American but certainly most of it is applicable to staffy owners in the UK too.

 

A blogger claiming it to be a myth doesn't make it a myth.

[JarvisS8 10]

Whilst it's true that because more people own staffies then it follows that there will be more staffy attacks than from other breeds, your comment that an aggressive staffy is a "bad apple" shows you do not really understand the breed.

 

Staffies are, and always have been, fighting dogs whose natural instinct is to attack. A good owner may be able to suppress that urge in his staffy but it will always be there, and of course because staffy owners tend to be inadequate young men trying to look hard, good staffy owners are extremely rare.

 

It's you that's not understanding "the breed". Staffies are no different from any other dog. It's the environment they are brought up in that really matters. Yes some, no matter how well brought up are plain nuts, but the same can be said for any other dog, animal or person.

[rickiethecat 10]

It's you that's not understanding "the breed". Staffies are no different from any other dog. It's the environment they are brought up in that really matters. Yes some, no matter how well brought up are plain nuts, but the same can be said for any other dog, animal or person.

 

Not at all. Anyone who knows anything about dogs will tell you that different breeds have different characteristics.

 

For example The Guide Dogs Association use labradors rather than any other breed, because labradors are highly trainable, patient and very easy going.

 

The Police use German Shepherd dogs because they have both strength and intelligence.

 

Staffies would be totally unsuitable as both guide dogs and police dogs as they only have the strength and aggression.

 

So if these organisations - who know more about dogs than anyone on this thread - recognise that different breeds have difference characteristics, why do you disagree?

[kaylee1 10]

Not at all. Anyone who knows anything about dogs will tell you that different breeds have different characteristics.

 

For example The Guide Dogs Association use labradors rather than any other breed, because labradors are highly trainable, patient and very easy going.

 

The Police use German Shepherd dogs because they have both strength and intelligence.

 

Staffies would be totally unsuitable as both guide dogs and police dogs as they only have the strength and aggression.

 

So if these organisations - who know more about dogs than anyone on this thread - recognise that different breeds have difference characteristics, why do you disagree?

 

Counter terrier-ism! Police take on crooks with Britain’s first Staffordshire bull terrier sniffer dog.

 

PC Webb said: “Like many breeds, Staffies can be tarnished with a bad reputation, which is unfair.

 

“But Kos is the gentlest and kindest of dogs. He’s always been very playful and he absolutely loves the game of searching.”

 

PC Webb said: “It didn’t take any longer to train him than the Spaniels we have, and some of those are also rescue dogs.

 

http://swns.com/news/counter-terrier-ism-police-crooks-britains-staffordshire-bull-terrier-sniffer-dog-26361/

[JarvisS8 10]

Not at all. Anyone who knows anything about dogs will tell you that different breeds have different characteristics.

 

For example The Guide Dogs Association use labradors rather than any other breed, because labradors are highly trainable, patient and very easy going.

 

The Police use German Shepherd dogs because they have both strength and intelligence.

 

Staffies would be totally unsuitable as both guide dogs and police dogs as they only have the strength and aggression.

 

So if these organisations - who know more about dogs than anyone on this thread - recognise that different breeds have difference characteristics, why do you disagree?

 

 

haha so those dogs don't get trained from pups? Those breeds never bit anyone?

 

You really have no clue.

[medusa 16]

Have you read any of this thread? In post 49 I posted a link to a site that proves that staffies have never been known as "the nanny dog" - it's a myth put about by staffy apologists. Here's the link again.

 

http://thenannydogblog.blogspot.co.uk/

 

Secondly the rest of your post is a cut and paste job from http://www.dogbiteclaims.co.uk/dog-bite.html which is a website run by a firm of solicitors whose sole purpose is to make money out of dog bite claims. They're hardly impartial as the more they exaggerate how many attacks there are, the more money they make.

 

If you want to read an impartial viewpoint about staffies and the type of people who own them, I'd suggest have a look at the link below.

 

http://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/the-truth-about-pit-bull-owners.html

 

I think it's American but certainly most of it is applicable to staffy owners in the UK too.

 

Errrr, I hate to say this, but the link you provided about the nanny dog myth was about AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIERS not Staffordshire Bull Terriers.

 

To answer your original point, this particular dog had previously shown serious aggression in attacking both other people and its owner and this was not acted upon. That's the single biggest failing in all of this, and it applies to all dogs, no matter what breed- previous aggression should be taken very seriously and action should be taken to prevent it happening again. Whether that action is training, segregating and wearing a muzzle or putting to sleep, action needs to be taken.

 

I don't have a staffy and they're not really my sort of dog, but I've got a big dog and I've always stated that if she ever bit someone and meant it (not a reflex response to pain or a herding or play nip) then I'd take her to the vets and have her put to sleep myself. The future for a big dog that is known to bite is so very bleak that I love her enough to not put her through that and would choose to let her go humanely as an alternative.

 

However, it's my job to make sure that this situation never occurs. Training, exercising, socialising and giving her boundaries are imperative, but everybody who is around dogs needs to recognise that there are some dogs that have serious issues which cannot be addressed by standard training and socialising and those dogs either need immediate specialist rehabilitation or they need to be rapidly taken away from the situation where they are at risk of doing harm.

 

My dog lives on a raw diet which means that I know for certain how easily she can chew up bones because I see her do it on a daily basis. She is, however, a kitten fostering dog who lives with 4 adult cats in the home, and to see her caring for tiny kittens that fit entirely in her mouth without ever having hurt any of them shows that she has supreme control of her teeth and jaw muscles and so clearly with 7 years of not hurting any human or the cats around her, she has no wish to hurt.

 

Is your issue with all dogs or just bull breeds?

[Chelle-82 10]

Staffies don't make the top ten most aggressive dogs, probably why it is called the nanny dog.

 

The problem is that current bite statistics can be misleading because many dog bites go unreported and only bites that require medical attention are taken into account for these statistics. This means that dogs that have specific fighting qualities from when they were used as fighting dogs or hunters, or larger dogs with more strength appear to be more aggressive than they actually are. When a pit bull terrier attacks it is more likely to have serious consequences, but some breeds from the toy group can be just as aggressive but their bites have little effect so the incidence isn’t reported and a distorted image is presented about aggressive dogs.

 

A recent study carried out on 6,000 dogs and their owners found out 33 of the most aggressive dogs, and also those which have good temperaments. The study involved collecting data from two different groups. The first group consisted of 11 different breeds and the second was an online survey mainly involving owners, including 33 breeds. The conclusions from both groups were similar. It looked at the different types of aggression such as towards other dogs, towards strangers and towards owners. Some of the results were surprising, below are the top ten most aggressive breed:

 

Dachshunds

Chihuahua

Jack Russell

Australian Cattle Dog

Cocker Spaniel

Beagle

Border Collie

Pit Bull Terrier

Great Dane

English Springer Spaniel

 

The Dachshund, otherwise known as the Sausage dog, was originally bred to hunt badgers. They came out as the most aggressive breed with 1 in 5 reported to have bitten or tried to bite a stranger and 1 in 12 snapping at their owners.

 

 

See my bold..

 

I genuinely do not believe that!! and if it is true then how I have been blind.... All I have ever owned is Springer spaniels and out of all my family and friends who have had them I have never once known an aggressive one!!

 

I'm not saying you're a lying by the way but I am so shocked....

[medusa 16]

Not at all. Anyone who knows anything about dogs will tell you that different breeds have different characteristics.

 

For example The Guide Dogs Association use labradors rather than any other breed, because labradors are highly trainable, patient and very easy going.

 

The Police use German Shepherd dogs because they have both strength and intelligence.

 

Staffies would be totally unsuitable as both guide dogs and police dogs as they only have the strength and aggression.

 

So if these organisations - who know more about dogs than anyone on this thread - recognise that different breeds have difference characteristics, why do you disagree?

 

So a police staffie sniffer dog has no intelligence?

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224801/Civilian-support-staffie--Police-train-sniffer-dog-come-demonised-Staffordshire-Bull-Terrier-breed.html

 

http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Staffordshire-Bull-Terrier-defies-fighting-dog/story-21017689-detail/story.html

[jandnmoore 10]

Personally i think any dog can become family orientated if treated right

[kaylee1 10]

See my bold..

 

I genuinely do not believe that!! and if it is true then how I have been blind.... All I have ever owned is Springer spaniels and out of all my family and friends who have had them I have never once known an aggressive one!!

 

I'm not saying you're a lying by the way but I am so shocked....

 

Nor me but then I also haven't come across an aggressive Staffie, I have been bitten by a Labrador and a Shih Tzu and come across many vicious little dogs that would bite given half a chance.

[taxman 12]

So a police staffie sniffer dog has no intelligence?

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2224801/Civilian-support-staffie--Police-train-sniffer-dog-come-demonised-Staffordshire-Bull-Terrier-breed.html

 

http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Staffordshire-Bull-Terrier-defies-fighting-dog/story-21017689-detail/story.html

 

 

Shhh Medusa, don't let the truth get in the way of ignorance.

[janlizzy 10]

Whilst it's true that because more people own staffies then it follows that there will be more staffy attacks than from other breeds, your comment that an aggressive staffy is a "bad apple" shows you do not really understand the breed.

 

Staffies are, and always have been, fighting dogs whose natural instinct is to attack. A good owner may be able to suppress that urge in his staffy but it will always be there, and of course because staffy owners tend to be inadequate young men trying to look hard, good staffy owners are extremely rare.

 

I understand more about the breed than you think,the name of the breed is staffordshire bull terrier and were bred for bull baiting.The dogs you seem to despise are without doubt staff cross pitbull or similar types.The pitbull was bred for the sole purpose of fighting other dogs,hence the pit name.When I posted bad apple I should have put nutcase and you would have understood that word.