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Once more Sheffield's Graves Park is used as a council tip.

Is it acceptable for the council to use parkland as a tipping ground.  

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  1. 1. Is it acceptable for the council to use parkland as a tipping ground.

    • Yes I have no problem with part of Graves Park being used as a tip
      6
    • No. The land should not be used for this storing this filth.
      57
    • The land should be cleared up and restored as public parkland.
      90
    • Who cares as long as it’s not in a park near me.
      1


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I was thinking just the other day that no matter how dreadful SCC have been for the last few decades at least the parks are well maintained.

 

Oh well!

 

I wonder if Special Measures might not be too far away. Probably the only way that Sheffield can be run by decent honest competent people.

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I wonder if Special Measures might not be too far away. .

 

What, for some rubbish dumped in a park? As bad as that is, I think you are being a tad ridiculous.

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What, for some rubbish dumped in a park? As bad as that is, I think you are being a tad ridiculous.
Dog faeces running into the water system is not "some rubbish". And its just the latest in a long long line of minor and major issues.

 

BTW for someone who had a right hissy fit when someone accused you of working for the council you sure do spend a lot of time trying to defend them. Just saying like.

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Dog faeces running into the water system is not "some rubbish". And its just the latest in a long long line of minor and major issues.

 

BTW for someone who had a right hissy fit when someone accused you of working for the council you sure do spend a lot of time trying to defend them. Just saying like.

 

You must have missed the instances in this thread where I was slagging them off then...

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I haven't had the chance to go up to the site and take a look at how the clean up is going and probably wont be able to get there till next week because of other commitments but I don't think the plan is to stop storing stuff there temporarily if I understood the news report correctly but rather just to improve the situation. The council could I suppose stop collecting rubbish that all the parks generate or they could go back to the old system of having a few smaller sites for storing rubbish dotted around the parks, I can remember the skips in Graves park near the football pitches or the rubbish collected in Millhouses park behind the buildings by the boating lake or the skip that used to sit in Meersbrook park. If that isn't a good idea and I for one don't think it is then the council may be thinking of looking for another location on this side of the city which I'm sure will cause ripples of annoyance wherever it may be located. The council could be more forthcoming with what happens to the stored stuff I imagine it has to be sorted to stuff for the incinerator, stuff that can be recycled and then stuff that has to go to our rapidly filling land fill sites. With a budget though that seems to be shrinking though I imagine any new scheme considered will have to be cost efective.

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I haven't had the chance to go up to the site and take a look at how the clean up is going and probably wont be able to get there till next week because of other commitments but I don't think the plan is to stop storing stuff there temporarily if I understood the news report correctly but rather just to improve the situation. The council could I suppose stop collecting rubbish that all the parks generate or they could go back to the old system of having a few smaller sites for storing rubbish dotted around the parks, I can remember the skips in Graves park near the football pitches or the rubbish collected in Millhouses park behind the buildings by the boating lake or the skip that used to sit in Meersbrook park. If that isn't a good idea and I for one don't think it is then the council may be thinking of looking for another location on this side of the city which I'm sure will cause ripples of annoyance wherever it may be located. The council could be more forthcoming with what happens to the stored stuff I imagine it has to be sorted to stuff for the incinerator, stuff that can be recycled and then stuff that has to go to our rapidly filling land fill sites. With a budget though that seems to be shrinking though I imagine any new scheme considered will have to be cost efective.

 

Why do they need a location. Think about it.

A guy in a transit goes round dog waste bins in Graves Park. He puts the bags in the truck. He goes to Meesrbrook. He puts the bags in the truck. He goes to Endcliffe he puts the bags in the truck. The truck is full he goes to the incinerator. Job done.

 

Why is it cost effective to have folk driving up to Graves Park, unloading all these bags sticking them in a heap. Going round every morning clearing up. Then another load of chaps picking up the bags and taking them to the incinerator.

 

It seems like a way of employing lots of unneccessary folk. A lot of unneccessary handling of dog muc. A lot of unneccessary risk to health and a great way to upset folk around our parks. The council don't need 3 1/2 acres of Graves Park to store dog crap that doesn't need storing. That land could be restored to parkland and everyone benifits but the jobsworths.

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Why do they need a location. Think about it.

A guy in a transit goes round dog waste bins in Graves Park. He puts the bags in the truck. He goes to Meesrbrook. He puts the bags in the truck. He goes to Endcliffe he puts the bags in the truck. The truck is full he goes to the incinerator. Job done.

 

Why is it cost effective to have folk driving up to Graves Park, unloading all these bags sticking them in a heap. Going round every morning clearing up. Then another load of chaps picking up the bags and taking them to the incinerator.

 

It seems like a way of employing lots of unneccessary folk. A lot of unneccessary handling of dog muc. A lot of unneccessary risk to health and a great way to upset folk around our parks. The council don't need 3 1/2 acres of Graves Park to store dog crap that doesn't need storing. That land could be restored to parkland and everyone benifits but the jobsworths.

 

It would seem to be the obvious thing to do

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Your ideas of efficiency are not compatible with our choice of council :hihi:

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Your ideas of efficiency are not compatible with our choice of council :hihi:

 

Perhaps they should reintroduce the high efficiency toilets as used a Conisborough Castle.

You lay one and it goes down a pipe where someone picks it up and pops it in a plastic bag. They then pop it in a bin. Someone comes along and empties all the little bags into one big bag. They go round collecting everyone's big bags with a truck and drive to a park where they store all the bags until they become really ripe and toxic. They then have another bunch of chaps who load the bags onto another van and take them to another park where they unload them to store them for a bit longer. Another group of guys go round at regular intervals scaring off the crows and picking up all the little bags that have escaped from the big bags. And you employ another bunch of folk to tackle the rat problems in surrounding gardens. Then another bunch of guys load everything onto another truck and take the bags for disposal. And another bunch of guys wash the trucks so that loads of excrements goes into the drains. Then you employ a load of doctors to treat all the people who have the plague.

 

Perfect solution to the unemployment. Millions would be out of work if we simply carry on flushing.

Edited by oldprune

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I can remember the dog toilet bins being introduced and it used to be a guy in a little Ford escort van going round to empty the things but obviously as time passed the number of bins has increased and from my nearest park I know the demand for such bins has become greater as well. I suppose with the subject of poo it would be reasonable to ask the council why a different scheme couldn't be implemented. A friend living in Rotherham used to collect scrap metal and I sometimes helped him load his van up with the stuff he'd accumulated, the local scrap metal merchant paid him according to the weight so he needed to amass a certain amount to make it worth his while.

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Perhaps they should reintroduce the high efficiency toilets as used a Conisborough Castle.

You lay one and it goes down a pipe where someone picks it up and pops it in a plastic bag. They then pop it in a bin. Someone comes along and empties all the little bags into one big bag. They go round collecting everyone's big bags with a truck and drive to a park where they store all the bags until they become really ripe and toxic. They then have another bunch of chaps who load the bags onto another van and take them to another park where they unload them to store them for a bit longer. Another group of guys go round at regular intervals scaring off the crows and picking up all the little bags that have escaped from the big bags. And you employ another bunch of folk to tackle the rat problems in surrounding gardens. Then another bunch of guys load everything onto another truck and take the bags for disposal. And another bunch of guys wash the trucks so that loads of excrements goes into the drains. Then you employ a load of doctors to treat all the people who have the plague.

 

Perfect solution to the unemployment. Millions would be out of work if we simply carry on flushing.

Plus every stage of that solution can be discussed via a lengthy consultation process which involves contracting external experts at £200 an hour.

 

And if it all costs too much just blame the Tories and sack a few of the front line workers who actually do some work.

 

Everyone's a winner!!!

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A friend living in Rotherham used to collect scrap metal and I sometimes helped him load his van up with the stuff he'd accumulated, the local scrap metal merchant paid him according to the weight so he needed to amass a certain amount to make it worth his while.

:hihi:

Interesting...

 

 

... so you think the council could be trading in the 'loocrative' dog poo market? :suspect:

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