ronthenekred   10 #361 Posted July 21, 2014 The IDF are risking their lives in an attempt to minimize civilian casualties.  By targeting civilian hospitals? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
GreenyGreen   10 #362 Posted July 21, 2014 By targeting civilian hospitals?  And by killing children playing football on a beach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Harleyman   12 #363 Posted July 21, 2014 If Hamas had stopped provoking Israel by ceasing to fire rockets into Israeli territory all this could have been avoided. Hamas wanted a war. They got one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
natjack   10 #364 Posted July 21, 2014 If Hamas had stopped provoking Israel by ceasing to fire rockets into Israeli territory all this could have been avoided. Hamas wanted a war. They got oneI don't understand why people are protesting against Israel. Hamas are the aggressors who are terrorising their own people. Why should the peaceful people of Israel have to live in shelters for days on end? If it wasn't for the shelters many more Israelis would be dead by now. And for the antisemites info, they wouldn't all be Jews. If Hamas stops the bombardment, Israel will leave them alone. Why people can't see that escapes me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
flamingjimmy   10 #365 Posted July 21, 2014 I don't understand why people are protesting against Israel. Hamas are the aggressors who are terrorising their own people. Why should the peaceful people of Israel have to live in shelters for days on end? If it wasn't for the shelters many more Israelis would be dead by now. And for the antisemites info, they wouldn't all be Jews. If Hamas stops the bombardment, Israel will leave them alone. Why people can't see that escapes me.  But the current Hamas bombardment was in response to Israel collectively punishing the Palestinians for the kidnapping and murder of those 3 teenagers last month, something which is against international law.  I'm not defending the rocket attacks by the way, merely pointing out that the statement "If Hamas stops the bombardment, Israel will leave them alone" is not true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
firemanbob   10 #366 Posted July 21, 2014 That's clearly not the case, civilian casualties have soared with their current actions.  It clearly is the case, its much safer for the IDF to bombard Gaza from Israel but much more difficult to prevent civilian casualties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
firemanbob   10 #367 Posted July 21, 2014 By targeting civilian hospitals?  By targeting rocket launch sites and Hamas fighters that are using civilian hospitals to launch their attacks on Israel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
flamingjimmy   10 #368 Posted July 21, 2014 It clearly is the case, its much safer for the IDF to bombard Gaza from Israel but much more difficult to prevent civilian casualties.  Firstly, they are bombarding them from Israel, and they've sent ground troops.  How you can try to paint the current IDF actions as an attempt to minimise civilian casualties I really don't know, it's one of the most insane things I've read on this forum for some time, surely you can't be serious?  Hundreds of civilians have died as a result of the IDF's campaign, even according to the IDF themselves.  How many civilians do you estimate would have died without the IDF bombing them and going in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SportsTrophy   10 #369 Posted July 21, 2014 Israel and Palestine are both weak, childish, spineless murderers. They want their heads banging together and find a way to sort their problems out now to save their kids and grand kids from suffering the same. Not that I'm bothered about saving any of them.  Neither side can be trusted so get the under sevens out and give both side as many guns as they need until they wipe themselves out completely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
GreenyGreen   10 #370 Posted July 21, 2014 The title of this thread should really be changed to something like 'Israel attacks Gaza'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
firemanbob   10 #371 Posted July 21, 2014 Firstly, they are bombarding them from Israel, and they've sent ground troops. How you can try to paint the current IDF actions as an attempt to minimise civilian casualties I really don't know, it's one of the most insane things I've read on this forum for some time.  Hundreds of civilians have died as a result of the IDF's campaign, even according to the IDF themselves.  Ground troops can't achieve anything that bombing Gaza can't achieve, but it does make it easier for the Israelis to minimize civilian casualties. Obviously if Israel stopped caring about the people of Gaza they could end the conflict tomorrow by leveling Gaza, killing everyone will assure the destruction of Hamas, but they clearly care so they risk their own troops in the hope of saving civilian lives.  Hundreds of Gazans have died because their elected government is firing rockets into Israel. When they stop firing rockets they will stop dying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   864 #372 Posted July 21, 2014 The title of this thread should really be changed to something like 'Israel attacks Gaza'. why? the title fits with what the thread was about when it first started Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...