Lotusflower   10 #1 Posted June 13, 2014 Given the current situation in Iraq and the changes it has experienced since the Bush/Blair led bombing and invasion would the Iraqi people be safer had Saddam not been deposed and hanged? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
melthebell   863 #2 Posted June 13, 2014 yes it would, saddam kept a lid on things, yes he was a dictator and adespot but there was order, now its out and out chaos and terrorism is growing by the second  at the minute its getting scarier by the second  read this today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-27834462  and a few things stand out  Iraq's most senior Shia cleric has issued a call to arms after Sunni-led insurgents seized more towns.  In his sermon at Friday prayers in Karbala, Sheik Abdulmehdi al-Karbalai said: "Citizens who are able to bear arms and fight terrorists, defending their country and their people and their holy places, should volunteer and join the security forces to achieve this holy purpose." all out civil war now? scary  ISIS is an ultra-extremist Sunni Muslim group ultra extremist Oo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tonkatoy   10 #3 Posted June 13, 2014 Given the current situation in Iraq and the changes it has experienced since the Bush/Blair led bombing and invasion would the Iraqi people be safer had Saddam not been deposed and hanged?  But Saddam prevented Iraq from descending into becoming an Islamic state governed by Sharia Law. Surely the people should be rejoicing that they will be allowed to live in acordance with their god's principals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tinfoilhat   11 #4 Posted June 13, 2014 But Saddam prevented Iraq from descending into becoming an Islamic state governed by Sharia Law. Surely the people should be rejoicing that they will be allowed to live in acordance with their god's principals.  He did gas thousands of his own civillians though amongst many other horrible things. Difference was he did it quietly with men in uniform not loudly on the back of pickup trucks then sticking the footage on YouTube. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lobos   10 #5 Posted June 13, 2014 He knew his people he kept the country in line,he may have been a savage evil dictator but he never interfered with us,deposing him was a big mistake and I guess we will have to do it all over again and more of our lads will have to go there and fight ,if the Yanks start they will more than likely drag us into it again...deja vu... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
LeMaquis   10 #6 Posted June 13, 2014 ....with their god's principals.  God is the principal.  ---------- Post added 13-06-2014 at 21:03 ----------  Given the current situation in Iraq and the changes it has experienced since the Bush/Blair led bombing and invasion would the Iraqi people be safer had Saddam not been deposed and hanged?  It would be better if only because what it has become threatens more war and stability for years to come. There could soon be an Al Qaeda-linked government in control of at least part of what is now Iraq. With support from Iran, part of Syria and elsewhere there is massive potential for years of conflict. Blair and Bush will always be responsible for this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tonkatoy   10 #7 Posted June 13, 2014 It would be better if only because what it has become threatens more war and stability for years to come. There could soon be an Al Qaeda-linked government in control of at least part of what is now Iraq. With support from Iran, part of Syria and elsewhere there is massive potential for years of conflict. Blair and Bush will always be responsible for this.  I suspect these guys were always going to be fighting someone to impose their religion on them. At least at the moment they are fighting amongst themselves. A terrorist government is always better than just plain terrorists. They have a country which can be bombed until it turns to dust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
verona   10 #8 Posted June 13, 2014 He did gas thousands of his own civillians though amongst many other horrible things. Difference was he did it quietly with men in uniform not loudly on the back of pickup trucks then sticking the footage on YouTube.  Or at least that is what the New World Order would have you believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mafya   248 #9 Posted June 13, 2014 An Iraqi woman friend of ours who has family over in Iraq says life was better under saddams rule. I have said it before, western style democracy doesn't work everywhere so maybe if we stopped trying to impose it on Eastern countries we wouldn't have the problems we now see in Iraq. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Se7enhills   10 #10 Posted June 13, 2014 An Iraqi woman friend of ours who has family over in Iraq says life was better under saddams rule. I have said it before, western style democracy doesn't work everywhere so maybe if we stopped trying to impose it on Eastern countries we wouldn't have the problems we now see in Iraq.  That is very true....You cant just impose "democracy" on people that are not used to it/ willing for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
emma royd   10 #11 Posted June 13, 2014 That is very true....You cant just impose "democracy" on people that are not used to it/ willing for it  Perhaps we should stop trying to impose our lifestyle on them and they should stop trying to impose their's on us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
tonkatoy   10 #12 Posted June 13, 2014 An Iraqi woman friend of ours who has family over in Iraq says life was better under saddams rule. I have said it before, western style democracy doesn't work everywhere so maybe if we stopped trying to impose it on Eastern countries we wouldn't have the problems we now see in Iraq.  But the problems we see in Iraq are pretty much their problems now. If Saddam had developed a nuclear weapon he would quite probaly have used it against us. If they got one now they would just use it on themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...