Ukip. All discussion here please.

[chalga 10]

the businesses that seem to fold or change hands at the end of the tax year? ..

 

The landlords who set extortionate rents for the grubby bedsits they overpopulate? who then get those rents paid for by the benefits system and systematically send the money back home.

 

What's that got to do with migrant workers spending money into the UK economy.........moving the goalposts doesn't alter the facts that I gave you.You've got an EU referendum coming up,now vote to get out.......please,because people have been sick of the whinging coming from there for a long time now...........just go,and see what the businesses/jobcreators who want to be at the heart of the EU decide to do as a result of an out vote.........your choice.

 

---------- Post added 15-05-2015 at 14:00 ----------

 

FARAGE GETS NUMBERS WRONG ON EU MIGRANTS IN THE UK

 

UKIP leader, Nigel Farage, told the BBC TV yesterday, “The biggest question of all with this referendum is who can vote? Because in a General Election it’s British passport holders that vote, but in a European election and in local elections, people with EU passports can vote. There are 4 million EU citizens living in this country, can they vote or not?”

 

But, as pointed out today by FactCheckEU, Mr Farage gave a grossly inflated figure for the number of EU citizens living in the UK. There are not 4 million, as he claimed, but only approximately 2.6 million, of whom only about 2.2 million are of voting age.

 

Concluded FactCheckEU:

 

“Were the referendum to be held now, approximately 2.2 EU citizens could go to the election booths were they deemed eligible. While not few overall, they are a far smaller bunch than the 4 million figure mentioned by Mr Farage on TV.”

[LeMaquis 10]

No doubt this squabble will soon be over in the party but I am sure some people will bring it up for years to come.

 

Squabble? This "squabble" is being played out by UKIP in the media. Farage has given interviews to the Telegraph and Sky demanding loyalty. Maybe he'll get a job in North Korea. Others are speaking to the BBC and briefing other journalists off the record. We don't need to bring it up.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11607607/Nigel-Farage-tells-critics-swear-loyalty-to-me-or-leave-Ukip.html

[MikeFrank 10]

Squabble? This "squabble" is being played out by UKIP in the media. Farage has given interviews to the Telegraph and Sky demanding loyalty. Maybe he'll get a job in North Korea. Others are speaking to the BBC and briefing other journalists off the record. We don't need to bring it up.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11607607/Nigel-Farage-tells-critics-swear-loyalty-to-me-or-leave-Ukip.html

 

I'm not being funny but the Telegraph is hardly unbiased. Nothing happened here. Stop rubber necking and move on

[harvey19 541]

Squabble? This "squabble" is being played out by UKIP in the media. Farage has given interviews to the Telegraph and Sky demanding loyalty. Maybe he'll get a job in North Korea. Others are speaking to the BBC and briefing other journalists off the record. We don't need to bring it up.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11607607/Nigel-Farage-tells-critics-swear-loyalty-to-me-or-leave-Ukip.html

 

It would be more beneficial if an unbiased report on UKIPs manifesto was reported and the number of people who voted in favour of it leading to them(the newspapers) to press for a reform in the voting system as obviously the 2 major parties will not as it isn't in their interests.

Remember it is sensationalism that sells newspapers and don't be taken in by it.

[chalga 10]

It would be more beneficial if an unbiased report on UKIPs manifesto was reported and the number of people who voted in favour of it leading to them(the newspapers) to press for a reform in the voting system as obviously the 2 major parties will not as it isn't in their interests.

Remember it is sensationalism that sells newspapers and don't be taken in by it.

 

Ok,Sorry,the newspapers are making it all up............nobody in UKIP has said a Dickey Bird.

[harvey19 541]

Ok,Sorry,the newspapers are making it all up............nobody in UKIP has said a Dickey Bird.

 

It has happened but the importance of a post election squabble is not as important as highlighting the present voting system inadequacies which is not getting the same amount of media coverage.

[chalga 10]

It has happened but the importance of a post election squabble is not as important as highlighting the present voting system inadequacies which is not getting the same amount of media coverage.

 

It is important,because it shows that if we had the voting system that you described,we would have had this bunch having some sort of power,which they have demonstrated by the mud slinging going on between them at the moment,they should get nowhere near.

[harvey19 541]

It is important,because it shows that if we had the voting system that you described,we would have had this bunch having some sort of power,which they have demonstrated by the mud slinging going on between them at the moment,they should get nowhere near.

 

We are now post election and my point is that the media should be focusing on issues which can affect the future of the country.

It is irrelevant that UKIP is the party causing focus to be brought on the election process the main point is that the 2major parties will not alter the system and therefore it is virtually irrelevant for any other parties to stand for election in the hope that they can form a government.

[chalga 10]

We are now post election and my point is that the media should be focusing on issues which can affect the future of the country.

It is irrelevant that UKIP is the party causing focus to be brought on the election process the main point is that the 2major parties will not alter the system and therefore it is virtually irrelevant for any other parties to stand for election in the hope that they can form a government.

 

None of which has anything to do with the UKIP mud slinging contest.Apparently,what you are saying is that UKIP should have all the publicity when they are 'telling it like it is' to the general public,but no publicity when they are 'telling it like it is' to themselves.........news and media outlets don't work that way............political parties in turmoil is big news,and neither Farage,as someone who courts publicity,or anyone else in UKIP has control of a publicity tap that they can turn on or off depending on what news they like reported,or not reported about them.

[harvey19 541]

None of which has anything to do with the UKIP mud slinging contest.Apparently,what you are saying is that UKIP should have all the publicity when they are 'telling it like it is' to the general public,but no publicity when they are 'telling it like it is' to themselves.........news and media outlets don't work that way............political parties in turmoil is big news,and neither Farage,as someone who courts publicity,or anyone else in UKIP has control of a publicity tap that they can turn on or off depending on what news they like reported,or not reported about them.

 

I fully accept your points.

Perhaps UKIP need to more disciplined in relation to divulging internal matters to the media.

[retep 68]

It is important,because it shows that if we had the voting system that you described,we would have had this bunch having some sort of power,which they have demonstrated by the mud slinging going on between them at the moment,they should get nowhere near.

 

4 million voters say they should, that's democracy.

[LeMaquis 10]

Perhaps UKIP need to more disciplined in relation to divulging internal matters to the media.

 

Perhaps? Back in UKIP Squabble Land Carswell has called on Farage to resign.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32761766

 

We are now post election and my point is that the media should be focusing on issues which can affect the future of the country.

 

It's funny how Kippers don't mind the publicity they generate from laying into foreigners but when they lay into each other they think they should be covered by the Official Secrets Act.