L00b   441 #61 Posted May 21, 2014 Yes yes yes yes yes Then you are being disingenuous.  How do propose to turn sand (and others more recently) into relevant crystalline forms, then turn that into PV cells using solar energy alone?  And I've focused on the cells alone here, not all the paraphernalia required to make a functional array for constituting a panel, never mind the further panel sub-assemblies (wiring, frame, glass substrate <etc.>)How do you make all that using solar energy alone?  And we haven't touched upon the respective sunlight-to-electricity conversion ratio of different types of cells and arrays, nor the respective useful life of such different types of panel, both of which are fundamental aspects of calculating how green/'carbon-neutral' a solar PV panel is.  Well done, trolled me again I see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ivanava   10 #62 Posted May 21, 2014 Then you are being disingenuous.  How do propose to turn sand (and others more recently) into relevant crystalline forms, then turn that into PV cells using solar energy alone?  And I've focused on the cells alone here, not all the paraphernalia required to make a functional array for constituting a panel, never mind the further panel sub-assemblies (wiring, frame, glass substrate <etc.>)How do you make all that using solar energy alone?  And we haven't touched upon the respective sunlight-to-electricity conversion ratio of different types of cells and arrays, nor the respective useful life of such different types of panel, both of which are fundamental aspects of calculating how green/'carbon-neutral' a solar PV panel is.  Well done, trolled me again I see.  Other than electricity what other forms of energy do you think are needed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
L00b   441 #63 Posted May 21, 2014 Other than electricity what other forms of energy do you think are needed?You have some outstanding answers to provide, so please do that, then I'll answer yours. That's how debate works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ivanava   10 #64 Posted May 21, 2014 You have some outstanding answers to provide, so please do that, then I'll answer yours. That's how debate works.  You are the one that appears to be making the claim that a solar panel manufacturer can't power their plant using solar power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Detetcive   10 #65 Posted May 23, 2014 5 posts now, more than the votes theyll recieve  Check the results. Doubled their seats. Better result than UKIP's!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
I1L2T3 Â Â 10 #66 Posted May 23, 2014 Greens look to have done alright. Momentum slowly increasing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
DeathAxe   10 #67 Posted May 25, 2014 Regarding fracking, this shows you the water contamination part  Do you want to be drinking this stuff? Contamination of our water supply, all because they want free money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ryedo40   10 #68 Posted May 25, 2014 Regarding fracking, this shows you the water contamination part  Do you want to be drinking this stuff? Contamination of our water supply, all because they want free money.  Quite a few in the US have wells - and wells are often dug into layers containing natural gas deposits; it's why most have vents installed to prevent the gas coming through their taps.  It's unlikely the gas coming out of the taps in the video has anything to do with fracking(fracking takes place miles below ground. Wells are nowhere near as deep). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #69 Posted January 28, 2015 Regarding fracking, this shows you the water contamination part  Do you want to be drinking this stuff? Contamination of our water supply, all because they want free money.  https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=fracking%20falsehoods Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Xt500 Â Â 10 #70 Posted January 28, 2015 Greens look to have done alright. Momentum slowly increasing. Â If you listen to the BBC that is lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ms Macbeth   70 #71 Posted January 29, 2015 The Greens appear to support a Citizens' Income in place of most means tested benefits. It seems to makes sense to me. For instance, it would stop cohabiting/married couples from being penalised for living together, as happens with the current means tested system. It would benefit workers on low wages and encourage people back to work without fear of being worse off. It would also help pensioners who although they saved for their retirement are no better off than if they were getting pension credit.  I wonder what the argument against it will be.  http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/08/citizens-income-71-week-person-would-make-britain-fairer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #72 Posted January 29, 2015 The Greens appear to support a Citizens' Income in place of most means tested benefits. It seems to makes sense to me. For instance, it would stop cohabiting/married couples from being penalised for living together, as happens with the current means tested system. It would benefit workers on low wages and encourage people back to work without fear of being worse off. It would also help pensioners who although they saved for their retirement are no better off than if they were getting pension credit.  I wonder what the argument against it will be.  http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/08/citizens-income-71-week-person-would-make-britain-fairer  Is this as well as my salary? If so I'm all for it... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...