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10 hours ago, Anna B said:

Even  Leader Nick Clegg lost his seat.

 

That has been proved to be a massive mistake, namely Jared O'mara

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3 hours ago, Albert the Cat said:

The only policy of significance that have come from the Lib Dems at the time was the AV referendum. 

Not really as the Lib Dems always favoured PR and not AV. AV was a compromise for the Lib Dems and something Cameron wanted rather than PR. Clegg infamously stated it was "a miserable little compromise" and loved by no one. I think Cameron gambled on it being rejected in that referendum and that time also got it right.

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8 hours ago, apelike said:

Not really as the Lib Dems always favoured PR and not AV. AV was a compromise for the Lib Dems and something Cameron wanted rather than PR. Clegg infamously stated it was "a miserable little compromise" and loved by no one. I think Cameron gambled on it being rejected in that referendum and that time also got it right.

Too true, and so like Cameron to switch to AV which nobody wanted thus moving the goalposts.  Of course it was a tactical move by Cameron intended to fail, and the Lib Dems certainly paid the price.

But it did backfire in the end, because Cameron then had to honour his promise to hold a referendum, and he was so tightly pinned down he couldn't wriggle out of it (including the wording of it, a simple in or out.) Nobody mentioned anything about a deal. The unexpected result has thrown the Tories into chaos with no way out.  

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2010: Liberal Democrats 100 per cent opposed to tuition Fees and the Tories.

 

2019: Liberal Democrats 100 per cent opposed to Brexit and the Tories.

 

It is now PERFECTLY clear that Jo Swinson, the Lib Dem Leader, has no interest in stopping Brexit but she does want to fill Nick Cleggs Deputy Prime Minister shoes by supporting a hard right Tory government (then onto a £multi-million salary job just like man of the people Cleggy).

 

Some things never change. 

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the lib dems were opposed to tuition fees, but they were in favour of a graduate tax.

 

the revised fees, and repayment criteria, mean that graduates under the new system, pay back £50* / month less than under the old system. * i think it's even more than that now.

 

£50/month = £600/year.

 

the point at which student fees/debts were so large that the average graduate will never pay them off, was passed long before anyone heard of Nick Clegg.

 

i graduated in 2002, i've got a decent job, and i'll never clear my debt.  Can i transfer my debt to the new system please? it'll save me £50/month.

 

a vote for the lib dems was a vote for a graduate tax, we didn't get that, but it got a lot closer. 

 

(the new system, gets more money back from very successful graduates, because they have to pay for longer. Lower earning graduates have to pay back less. it's a very progressive system. Actually one that the Lib Dems can be quite proud of.)

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General Election 2019: Liberal Democrats line up new candidate Claire Malcolmson to replace Tim Walker in Canterbury

 

"The Liberal Democrats have lined up a new candidate for Canterbury less than 24 hours after their parliamentary hopeful stepped down. Claire Malcolmson, a councillor in Mole Valley, Dorking, is set to replace the ex-candidate Tim Walker. He unexpectedly quit the race yesterday saying he wanted to give the Labour candidate Rosie Duffield the best chance of retaining the seat she won in 2017 against the odds. Canterbury constituency chairman Nigel Whitburn said: "Yes, she's going to be signing nomination forms, which we've got to get done and in by tomorrow. There's a split locally about what should be happening, but the majority of members say we should be putting up a candidate. Obviously at such short notice there was a limited choice."

 

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/lib-dems-line-up-new-candidate-for-city-216166/

 

The new totalitarian aggressive Jo Swinson Lib Dems are also taking disciplinary action against any of their candidates who refuse to split the Remain vote at the general election.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Car Boot said:

General Election 2019: Liberal Democrats line up new candidate Claire Malcolmson to replace Tim Walker in Canterbury

 

"The Liberal Democrats have lined up a new candidate for Canterbury less than 24 hours after their parliamentary hopeful stepped down. Claire Malcolmson, a councillor in Mole Valley, Dorking, is set to replace the ex-candidate Tim Walker. He unexpectedly quit the race yesterday saying he wanted to give the Labour candidate Rosie Duffield the best chance of retaining the seat she won in 2017 against the odds. Canterbury constituency chairman Nigel Whitburn said: "Yes, she's going to be signing nomination forms, which we've got to get done and in by tomorrow. There's a split locally about what should be happening, but the majority of members say we should be putting up a candidate. Obviously at such short notice there was a limited choice."

 

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/lib-dems-line-up-new-candidate-for-city-216166/

 

The new totalitarian aggressive Jo Swinson Lib Dems are also taking disciplinary action against any of their candidates who refuse to split the Remain vote at the general election.

 

 

Given that you've been pushing Brexit for the last 6 months or so, why the sudden concern about splitting the Remain vote?

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6 hours ago, Car Boot said:

The new totalitarian aggressive Jo Swinson Lib Dems are also taking disciplinary action against any of their candidates who refuse to split the Remain vote at the general election.

One of their MPs resigned the whip because he stood on getting Brexit done, as Boris would say.

Conservative MPs were sacked for not following Boris Johnsons order to back Brexit.

Whereas Labour, if you critisized Isreal you will be booted out, anything else is perfectly ok.

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1 hour ago, El Cid said:

One of their MPs resigned the whip because he stood on getting Brexit done, as Boris would say.

Conservative MPs were sacked for not following Boris Johnsons order to back Brexit.

Whereas Labour, if you critisized Isreal you will be booted out, anything else is perfectly ok.

You have really no idea do you. Come on... Tell us how many labour mps have been booted out for criticising Israel. 

8 hours ago, Car Boot said:

General Election 2019: Liberal Democrats line up new candidate Claire Malcolmson to replace Tim Walker in Canterbury

 

"The Liberal Democrats have lined up a new candidate for Canterbury less than 24 hours after their parliamentary hopeful stepped down. Claire Malcolmson, a councillor in Mole Valley, Dorking, is set to replace the ex-candidate Tim Walker. He unexpectedly quit the race yesterday saying he wanted to give the Labour candidate Rosie Duffield the best chance of retaining the seat she won in 2017 against the odds. Canterbury constituency chairman Nigel Whitburn said: "Yes, she's going to be signing nomination forms, which we've got to get done and in by tomorrow. There's a split locally about what should be happening, but the majority of members say we should be putting up a candidate. Obviously at such short notice there was a limited choice."

 

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/canterbury/news/lib-dems-line-up-new-candidate-for-city-216166/

 

The new totalitarian aggressive Jo Swinson Lib Dems are also taking disciplinary action against any of their candidates who refuse to split the Remain vote at the general election.

 

 

Whereas you will vote Tory because you believe in Brexit 

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Jo Swinson and her strong team of life long dedicated Liberal Democrats such as Chuka Umunna, Sarah Wollaston, Luciana Berger, Heidi Allen and Sam Gyimah all promoting everlasting austerity which would make a Tory blush.

 

Didn't the Lib Dems support for economic austerity help to end the lives of enough vulnerable and disadvantaged people the last time they were in office?

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Apart from the Brexit issue, voting Liberal Democrat is the same as voting Tory.

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