Pettytom   1 #397 Posted September 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, iansheff said: So Jo Swinson says if they were elected and she was Prime Minister she would revoke Article 50 and we stay in the EU, that is really being democratic. Sod the people we will do what I say and we will leave, think she has got the lust for power. She will only get to do that if it is the will of the people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
iansheff   84 #398 Posted September 18, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pettytom said: She will only get to do that if it is the will of the people. It depends how many people vote, I can't see her being PM but with the apathy towards voting who knows. The winning party could take power by getting fewer votes than the number of votes that were cast to leave the EU, if that was the LibDems and they revoked Article 50 what does that say about democracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Pettytom   1 #399 Posted September 18, 2019 Just now, iansheff said: It depends how many people vote, I can't see her being PM but with the apathy towards voting who knows. The winning party could take power by getting fewer votes than the number of votes that were cast to leave the EU, if that was the LibDems and they revoked Article 50 what does that say about democracy. It says, get out and vote.  There are far too many imponderables in the rest of your statement to be worth debating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Borista336 Â Â 0 #400 Posted September 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, iansheff said: So Jo Swinson says if they were elected and she was Prime Minister she would revoke Article 50 and we stay in the EU, that is really being democratic. Sod the people we will do what I say and we will leave, think she has got the lust for power. its comedy gold , Swinson has no chance shes just milking her 5 mins of fame! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99   773 #401 Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) On 15/09/2019 at 00:02, taxman said: Yet more tories joining them. They must be loving the extra MPs and publicity but the last time they sold their souls to a bunch of Tories it didn't turn out so well.  They claim to be vetting the incomers but there is concern that the new famous "Liberal Democrats" will just be parachuted into safe seats to the cost of long term, loyal and steadfast members of the party.  "Sorry old chap, I know you've done brilliant work for the party for 40 years but Chucka is here now and he's the future!" Swinson is probably more aligned with your average Tory than most.  https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11971/jo_swinson/east_dunbartonshire/votes  Voted to reduce housing benefit for social tenants.  Voted against raising welfare benefits.  Voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods to those unable to work due to illness or disability.  Voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people.  Voted against taxing banker’s & banker’s bonuses.  Vote for raising VAT. Edited September 18, 2019 by Baron99 Amendments Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
davyboy   17 #402 Posted September 18, 2019 (edited) Lib Dems, if in power,  could introduce a Minister for Happines. All decisions on spending and legislation will depend on how they affect peoples happiness. I await Littlejohn's "you couldn't make it up " comment. I think they are all on banned substances Edited September 18, 2019 by davyboy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jaffa1   10 #403 Posted September 18, 2019 Jo Swindon is doing a Kinnock from the past, she's  going to fall flat on her face or as Kinnock did on the beach , on his a-- e. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
taxman   12 #404 Posted September 18, 2019 9 hours ago, Baron99 said: Swinson is probably more aligned with your average Tory than most.  https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/11971/jo_swinson/east_dunbartonshire/votes  Voted to reduce housing benefit for social tenants.  Voted against raising welfare benefits.  Voted against paying higher benefits over longer periods to those unable to work due to illness or disability.  Voted against spending public money to create guaranteed jobs for young people.  Voted against taxing banker’s & banker’s bonuses.  Vote for raising VAT. Once a Tory always a Tory..if you voted for a bedroom tax, if you voted for tax credits, if you supported the health reforms and kowtowed to Clegg when he was sucking in the Rose Garden then you really have no credibility at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   213 #405 Posted September 19, 2019 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Baron99   773 #406 Posted September 19, 2019 1 hour ago, alchresearch said: Well from looking at the graph, it appears to be at the expense of Lab? The others appear pretty stable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   213 #407 Posted September 20, 2019 Yep, and Brexit Party is at the expense of the Conservatives.  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   213 #408 Posted September 20, 2019 Another small but decent win:  Lib Dems: 648 Conservative: 307 Independent: 155 Labour: 32 Green: 30  https://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/17915617.lib-dems-win-vivary-by-election---taking-seat-conservatives/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...